RMweb Gold 57xx Posted October 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Andy Keane said: More LMS stuff creeping in I see. It'll be LNER next and then where will you be? He'll have a layout with a good representation of wagons from the across the system (although not sure how far, it at all, brake vans wandered). :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I have an LNER interloper, a Mainline J72. It will either be serviced and moved on or possibly turned into something ex Barry or Brecon and Merthyr, if the dimensions stack up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Graham T said: More weathering today - i think I've had just about enough of it for now though! All the usual methods used here: frame dirt sprayed on the chassis and lower body, dark wash on the woodwork, black powder applied sparingly to the roof with a large soft brush, then sealed with matt varnish, and finally a little touch of rust powder here and there on the bogies. That looks convincingly dried out and dusty. You've made a really good job of that, I've got one of those and three low siphons to improve and that's the level of weathering I am going to aim for. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadLeaves Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Graham T said: More weathering today - i think I've had just about enough of it for now though! All the usual methods used here: frame dirt sprayed on the chassis and lower body, dark wash on the woodwork, black powder applied sparingly to the roof with a large soft brush, then sealed with matt varnish, and finally a little touch of rust powder here and there on the bogies. That's simply splendid - a superb "hard-working but cared-for" look. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, longchap said: Your weathering skills with airbrush assistance are progressing nicely, I'll do some more note typing ce soir, as have been finishing the surgery on my Pannier top feed this afternoon. Thanks Bill. Getting the right consistency of paint seems to be one of the trickiest parts, to be honest... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: That looks convincingly dried out and dusty. You've made a really good job of that, I've got one of those and three low siphons to improve and that's the level of weathering I am going to aim for. 47 minutes ago, BroadLeaves said: That's simply splendid - a superb "hard-working but cared-for" look. Thanks very much chaps. I have a couple of other Siphons to spruce up, one of which will need a complete repaint from BR blue. But as mentioned I think I've almost had my fill of weathering for the time being, so perhaps I will shift targets. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 23/10/2022 at 21:18, Harlequin said: Preservation. They have done some research and made a judgement that may or may not be right. Take with a large pinch of salt. Umm, have to agree. I was told about one railway that sent paint for analysis so they could get a matching shade for restoration. One of the early volunteers found out and came out with the gem that they had "mixed that colour from various tins they had at home until it looked about right, then whacked it on one weekend sometime in early 1970's". . . . . 3 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 16:53, Andy Keane said: It'll be LNER next and then where will you be? Authentic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 19:53, Graham T said: Thanks Bill. Getting the right consistency of paint seems to be one of the trickiest parts, to be honest... Yes and linked to appropriate air pressure from your compressor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold longchap Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) On 29/10/2022 at 20:53, Graham T said: Thanks Bill. Getting the right consistency of paint seems to be one of the trickiest parts, to be honest... Almost finished my notes Graham, which will probably be with you after tomorrow's visitors depart. You'll soon get the right combination and are probably pretty close right now, although shuffling with more than one variable would be tricky, so stick to a mid point pressure, then get the paint consistency right. Rule of thumb is 15 to 20psi with acrylics and 20 to 25 with enamel. I only spray with enamels, but 18psi should be a good starting point for well mixed acrylic with a milk like flow. Push it up the side of the colour cup with a paintbrush and if it rushes back down quickly, add a couple more drops of paint until it's a bit more relaxed. Also spray from a consistent distance and steady speed. For weathering, I start my mist coats from 4" away at an inch a second. More soon. Edited October 31, 2022 by longchap Spilling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Authentic. But perhaps not so much for Herefordshire! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, Gopher said: Yes and linked to appropriate air pressure from your compressor. My compressor is a very basic one that came with the airbrush. I'm not at home right now, but I'm pretty sure the air pressure isn't adjustable. If I remember rightly it produces about 25 psi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 34 minutes ago, longchap said: Almost finished my notes Graham, which will probably be with you after tomorrow's visitors depart. You'll soon get the right combination and are probably pretty close right now, although shuffling with more than one variable would be tricky, so stick to a mid point pressure, then get the paint consistency right. Rule of thumb is 15 to 20psi with acrylics and 20 to 25 with enamel. I only spray with enamels, but 18psi should be a good starting point for well mixed acrylic with a milk like flow. Push it up the side of the colour cup with a paintbrush and if it rushes back down quickly, add a couple more drops of paint until it's a bit more relaxed. Also spray from a consistent distance and steady speed. For weathering, I start my most costs from 4" away at an inch a second. More soon. Thanks again Bill. I've got some small glass bottles on the way which I think will make paint mixing a bit simpler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Graham T said: But perhaps not so much for Herefordshire! Very much so for Herefordshire. Ordinary open wagons and vans were pooled from the Great War onwards. There has been much discussion of the proportions of wagons by company one should expect to see but it is evident that since the LNER's wagon fleet was second only in size to that of the LMS, and both considerably larger than that of the GWR, one should expect to see the wagons and vans of both companies to at least some extent and quite probably outnumbering the indigenous vehicles. It's the SR wagons that should be the real rarity as the Southern wagon fleet was piddlingly small by comparison. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Graham T said: My compressor is a very basic one that came with the airbrush. I'm not at home right now, but I'm pretty sure the air pressure isn't adjustable. If I remember rightly it produces about 25 psi. Well you get good results Graham. I only use diluted acrylic paint for weathering and set the pressure for between 18 and 20 psi. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Very much so for Herefordshire. Ordinary open wagons and vans were pooled from the Great War onwards. There has been much discussion of the proportions of wagons by company one should expect to see but it is evident that since the LNER's wagon fleet was second only in size to that of the LMS, and both considerably larger than that of the GWR, one should expect to see the wagons and vans of both companies to at least some extent and quite probably outnumbering the indigenous vehicles. It's the SR wagons that should be the real rarity as the Southern wagon fleet was piddlingly small by comparison. Ah yes, now there I agree with you. Sorry, I thought you meant locos. I do have a few NE wagons but need to get some more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gopher said: Well you get good results Graham. I only use diluted acrylic paint for weathering and set the pressure for between 18 and 20 psi. Thanks Clive. I'll keep practicing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Graham T said: Sorry, I thought you meant locos. Usually the last thing on my mind! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Very much so for Herefordshire. Ordinary open wagons and vans were pooled from the Great War onwards. There has been much discussion of the proportions of wagons by company one should expect to see but it is evident that since the LNER's wagon fleet was second only in size to that of the LMS, and both considerably larger than that of the GWR, one should expect to see the wagons and vans of both companies to at least some extent and quite probably outnumbering the indigenous vehicles. It's the SR wagons that should be the real rarity as the Southern wagon fleet was piddlingly small by comparison. I remember a similar conversation on my thread where you offered such prototype advice and I have since used that as a justification for the enormous wagon kit stash. Don't worry, I didn't tell Miss R it was your idea, I blamed reality. 😎 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, MrWolf said: I blamed reality. Does for most things. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, MrWolf said: I blamed reality. It's overrated... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Graham T said: It's overrated... That might explain the fictional railways set ninety years ago. Aston is set about 1938, just before the world went sideways... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 For a change of pace I've decided to make a start on my small stash of wagon kits. This is the Parkside (Ratio) GWR Beetle. However, the sides are distinctly more reminiscent of bananas than beetles, with a distinct curve to them. Leaving them under some weights overnight had no effect, so a bit of lateral thinking was called for... Having removed the clamps. it appears to be square - so far! 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold longchap Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, Graham T said: Having removed the clamps. it appears to be square - so far! Well done Graham, it's horrible when you find something like that. If a similar event looks even bendier, try dunking in almost boiling water for a minute before putting under pressure from clamps, or preferably a heavy book or two which will distribute the weight more evenly. I have the same kit in my stash. Don't ask how I know this! Oh, I've finished the airbrushing notes, so just need to give it a final sanity check and insert some links. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted October 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, longchap said: Well done Graham, it's horrible when you find something like that. If a similar event looks even bendier, try dunking in almost boiling water for a minute before putting under pressure from clamps, or preferably a heavy book or two which will distribute the weight more evenly. I have the same kit in my stash. Don't ask how I know this! Oh, I've finished the airbrushing notes, so just need to give it a final sanity check and insert some links. I've used the hot water technique before actually Bill, to bend plastic rod for downpipes. But the clamps did the trick with this, so it wasn't required. I've actually ended up with two of these kits somehow! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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