RAF96 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Changing the 6010 channel names is a much requested improvement. You can revert to v1.6.3 to ditch the glitch. Go to the firmware update screen, click in the box - available updates and a scroll will open at the bottom of the screen, pick v1.6.3 and then instal. Hopefully when Hornby get back after the holidays they will either pull the update or fettle it. I have used the relay trick to parallel manual points switching with DCC switching and your idea echos that, however having a pair of relays per point drives the price up. Mine were standard 12v car relays but I did a study on using modular relay panels and wrote it up on my web site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Hornby has pulled the v1.7.1 update for now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 21C123 Posted May 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2022 Hi all I have been using my HM6000 with a 1 Amp plug pack on my OO layout and generally been pleased with it. Double heading with two Bachman class 20s is fine but two Heljan class 28s trips the short circuit protection. Would changing to a 4 Amp power supply solve this problem ? I also find that the circuit trips when running older Hornby diesels through a PECO single slip, the wheel shorts as it crosses the crossing, is there a way to delay the short circuit protection or set it higher ? thanks Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, 21C123 said: I also find that the circuit trips when running older Hornby diesels through a PECO single slip, the wheel shorts as it crosses the crossing, is there a way to delay the short circuit protection or set it higher ? This is probably in part down to back-to-back measurements being out. The 'right' solution is probably to fix that rather than fiddle with the short-circuit protection (even though the latter could possibly work - I just don't know how you would do it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Upping the power supply will not improve short circuit tripping. It may allow double heading current hungry locos but only up to the output limit of the 6000 module. I believe it is planned to de-sensitise the trip out level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Is anyone having trouble with sound? The diesel engine sound on mine runs for the length of the sound file (a few seconds) then stops. It didn't used to do this. Is it as simple a fix as an update? I can't find anything on Google. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 31/01/2023 at 15:43, LukeB said: Is anyone having trouble with sound? The diesel engine sound on mine runs for the length of the sound file (a few seconds) then stops. It didn't used to do this. Is it as simple a fix as an update? I can't find anything on Google. Hornby requests that you report this in through Customer Services (phone contact better) as they have not had any reports to date. It may be a problem at your end as they have not changed anything in the app recently. Edit - it would help if you had details of the device you have the app loaded on and any changes you have made such as recent updates to the device. Edited February 1, 2023 by RAF96 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeB Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Thanks @RAF96, I'll get in touch with them one day this week. For reference, I run the app on a Redmi Note 9 running the latest Android. It was fine until about November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) Firmware updates are available from the HM6K app for both 6000 and 6010 modules. These updates fix previous glitches and allow improved mesh connection especially with HM7K app once released. The 6010 module can also be used as a R8247 acc decoder substitute on DCC layouts if powered with DCC by the Track connection rather than a PSU. All the R8247 v2.0 features are already in the 6010 module, so read the manual for the v2.0 R8247 for details. The 6010 Track connection can now be powered by DC for use with HM6K app in lieu of a PSU. Edit - 6010 v1.8.2 has a glitch whereby the module works for 59 seconds and needs to be ‘resumed’ to work for the same time again, etc. v1.10.0 will fettle that soon. Edited March 7, 2023 by RAF96 As shown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Further to the HM6010 module glitch saga. It is advised that anyone having problems revert to version v1.6.3 for now. The problem will be fully resolved at the next app update, yet to be scheduled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted March 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2023 Is it easy to revert to a previous firmware version- does the app offer a choice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I know nothing but I reverted without a problem. I'm running 1.6.3 on my 6010s and it looks like that is the best place to stay. One thing I have failed miserably on is getting my iphone to work with mesh. My ipad is fine but my iphone13 and my previous iphone11 just don't work with mesh. They are fine on standard Bluetooth. Any suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 14:45, Chris M said: I know nothing but I reverted without a problem. I'm running 1.6.3 on my 6010s and it looks like that is the best place to stay. One thing I have failed miserably on is getting my iphone to work with mesh. My ipad is fine but my iphone13 and my previous iphone11 just don't work with mesh. They are fine on standard Bluetooth. Any suggestions? only suggestion is to ensure you have de-linked from the previous device before linking to new device. Also note that Mesh tech is an architecture of several nodes. If you only have one module and the app you cannot in theory set up a mesh. The more nodes (modules or Bluetooth decoders) you have the stronger the mesh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 12:22, Limpley Stoker said: Is it easy to revert to a previous firmware version- does the app offer a choice? Yes - go to update firmware, pick your module and spin the firmware version wheel to select the version of choice. In this case reverting to a known good version, a bit like windows back-up can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RAF96 said: only suggestion is to ensure you have de-linked from the previous device before linking to new device. Also note that Mesh tech is an architecture of several nodes. If you only have one module and the app you cannot in theory set up a mesh. The more nodes (modules or Bluetooth decoders) you have the stronger the mesh. Thanks, I will try delinking on the iPad then. I didn’t think that would be an issue because the iPad is well out of range and switched off. I think the mesh would be very useful as I have three 6010s next to each other to remotely change the points on my garden railway. One of the units drops out before the other two do as I get further from the units. Edited March 17, 2023 by Chris M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Is this "new fangled" app control now passed into history like Zero 1 and Railmaster E-Link? Hornby had/has them at GBP69.00 in the trainset pack reduced from GBP159.99. Purely out of interest I picked up two trainsets new from Hattons yesterday for GBP69.00 each to see what all the hype was about. Given that the HM6000 app controller and specific power supply retail at around GBP25.00 each, then a complete trainset for a few quid more just does not make sense. Perhaps another own goal from Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted November 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, GWR-fan said: Is this "new fangled" app control now passed into history like Hornby don't think so - the hm6000 is pictured in their "coming soon" section of website. Don't mistake a stock-clearing discount on a Train Set for something else. The hm6010 unit is promoted for use with the hm7000 decoders, so I feel Hornby are still supporting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 The HM6010 has a dual connection with both analogue and digital control and thus will remain a priority with Hornby. The HM6000 is purely analogue and seemingly interest has died down after its initial release around two years ago. Software updates were instigated previously so hopefully some of the teething issues have been sorted out and the current platform is now stable. If not for the massive discount I had no previous interest in the platform as I am more a tactile modeller, preferring hardware rather than software. I prefer the rotation of a knob rather than a touchscreen to control trains, but am willing to investigate other areas of control if troublefree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) The 6000 module can be used as a dumb static node for HM7K to say extend range and provide greater stability to the mesh. It can with limits be used as a power source if the PWM frequency is tweaked up high, but this is not really recommended for reasons stated in the decoder manual. As stated the 6010 module has already been incorporated into the HM7K app, at present only for basic operations, but as the internals are essentially a Bluetooth version of an R8247 it has all that v2.0 operability awaiting the app to be updated with an expanded GUI to use those extra functionality. 6010 modules also act as static nodes to the mesh. Just be aware each app (HM6K or HM7K) uses these modules at different firmware revisions, which are resettable in version as required. Edited November 25, 2023 by RAF96 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I remain unconvinced that Hornby see a future in "investing" in the HM6000 analogue platform. Seems more like a thought bubble that burst in a vacuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoSteve Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) just come across the HM6000 and now understand what it actually is (as compared to DCC) - essentially a pair of old school analog controllers each of which can be controlled via Bluetooth (and thence an HM | DC App) My 'layout' such that it is, is an embryonic diorama hosting a Halling M5000 OO Scale tram. Whilst I could open it up and put a DCC chip in it to allow 'remote control' beyond simply turning the knob on a Hornby Analog Controller, I would prefer not to open it up, which means the HM6000 capability does present a possibility of remotely driving the tram short distances with associated interactivity relating to signage etc. Whilst the HM | DC app provides the means to drive the HM6000 remotely, what intrigues me is getting out of the HM | DC App. Has anyone 'opened up' the HM6000 API such that it can be instructed via some other software, with its own programmable logic? It will almost certainly be dependent on whether Hornby have encrypted/obfuscated the API-over-BT that is being used between the HM | DC App and the HM6000. I could try a BT sniffer to see whats visible. Any ideas? Edited August 19 by DiscoSteve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin1946 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just FYI, I have just upgraded my HM6000 to v. 1.8.2 using my Blackberry phone running HMDC under Android V.8.1.0 . No problems with Mesh ; just followed the instructions 🤩 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I don’t think folk generally realise just how useful and cheap the HM6000 system is. I have one track controller unit and have put a plug on each lead. This is wired the same as the plugs on my other controllers. While the HM6000 isn’t used as my main controller it is fantastic when I want to control trains but don’t want to be sitting at the control panel. I use three HM6010s to control the points on my garden railway. What does the latest update improve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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