Andrew P Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 George Russel beat, Seb, Fernando and Kimi, 3 Ex World Champions in a Car that is reportedly slower that all theirs. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Nikita Mazepin lacks respect for F1 etiquette, says Antonio Giovinazzi. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/31276132/mazepin-lacks-respect-f1-etiquette-says-giovinazzi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, Andrew P said: George Russel beat, Seb, Fernando and Kimi, 3 Ex World Champions in a Car that is reportedly slower that all theirs. Latifi is ahead of Alonso and Kimi, which would suggest that Williams might not be as dreadful as they have been of late. And Mazepin hasn't yet shown any evidence that he's fit to drive an F1 car. It's early days, but it's not just his lack of speed that suggests he doesn't have what it takes. He might figure it out before the end of the season though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted April 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Been watching the C4 coverage of the Imola GP. Where did they find that pit lane reporter and the interviewer of the top three at the end? TV coverage is definitely on the downward slope. Gutted for Lando. Better than last time out, Coulthard back in the box, and Alex whatshisname had calmed down, but yes, the pit line guy was awful. Mad session! Gutted for Lando, awesome lap though, given that ‘error’ probably gave him a few thousandths at most over a ‘legal’ lap it was clearly stellar. Tomorrow should be great! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I think DC was in the box last time - but Alex and Billy did most of the talking! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, njee20 said: Mad session! Gutted for Lando, awesome lap though, given that ‘error’ probably gave him a few thousandths at most over a ‘legal’ lap it was clearly stellar. Tomorrow should be great! It does seem to make a difference .In lower formulas where track limits are rigorously enforced as a learning curve for budding F1 drivers my son in law has noted that some of his his drivers can pull off great qualy laps but nearly always fall foul of the track limits .When they stay in track limits their laps arent as quick .They cant match the two up .I suppose. it sorts out the s**t hot from the quick .The same accuracy of track position flat out also is needed in the race dicing millimeters from another car . .He has had many a rant telling them that if they didnt keep track limits there is no point being on track at all as its a waste of team effort ..Everyone hates the bloody things . But some keep on track and keep qualifying top so it can be done .Poor old Lando, tongue tied and nervous. He is way out of his comfort zone . Edited April 17, 2021 by friscopete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Just popped by to say how impressed I was by this photo in the Guardian's piece about Imola qualifying: Martin Brundle has famously asserted that F1 cars develop so much downforce that, flat out, you could drive one across the ceiling. Well, it doesn't look as if HAM is hanging about but he's still got three if not all four wheels off the ground... It reminds me of a large poster I used to have on my bedroom wall when I was a kid*, of Jackie Stewart at speed in his 1969 championship-winning Matra with all four wheels off the ground. I think it was this photo: I almost wish I still had that poster. Mind you, that photo was taken at the Nurburgring where you were basically supposed to be airborne several times each lap - plus aero wasn't nearly as sophisticated as it is these days so downforce was lower. On the other hand, they had more suspension travel back then so you did have to build up a fair bit of upward momentum before the tyres would actually part company with the tarmac. I believe Sir Jackie once said something along the lines of: "If someone says they enjoy the Nurburgring either they're not going fast enough, or they're insane". Then again, if you do a Google image search for "Jackie Stewart Nurburgring" an awful lot of the results seem to involve the car being airborne - which indeed might go some way to explaining his sentiments about the place. * My bedroom curtains were decorated with the 1970 Le Mans-winning long tail Porsche 917 #23 in its red and white "go faster stripes" livery - one on each curtain - done rather impressively in appliqué by my Mum. I almost wish I still had those curtains, too... Edited April 17, 2021 by ejstubbs 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 hours ago, friscopete said: It does seem to make a difference .In lower formulas where track limits are rigorously enforced as a learning curve for budding F1 drivers my son in law has noted that some of his his drivers can pull off great qualy laps but nearly always fall foul of the track limits .When they stay in track limits their laps arent as quick .They cant match the two up .I suppose. it sorts out the s**t hot from the quick .The same accuracy of track position flat out also is needed in the race dicing millimeters from another car . .He has had many a rant telling them that if they didnt keep track limits there is no point being on track at all as its a waste of team effort ..Everyone hates the bloody things . But some keep on track and keep qualifying top so it can be done .Poor old Lando, tongue tied and nervous. He is way out of his comfort zone . I think there are a couple of things at play there, and not just the actual advantage associated with exceeding track limits. Once you’ve had a lap deleted you’re much more likely to put in a ‘safe’ lap. Better 6th than aiming for 1st again and getting 10th. It was such a marginal transgression that clearly there was no meaningful advantage. Maybe a ‘better’ driver would have been 2” to the left, but we see all of the drivers fall foul of the rule, so I don’t really buy that. My point was more than Lando’s lap was genuinely fast, not fast because he cut some corners. No idea what you mean about being out of his comfort zone, he seems very happy where he is, outperforming a very highly regarded team mate in Ricciardo. 3 hours ago, ejstubbs said: Just popped by to say how impressed I was by this photo in the Guardian's piece about Imola qualifying: Martin Brundle has famously asserted that F1 cars develop so much downforce that, flat out, you could drive one across the ceiling. Well, it doesn't look as if HAM is hanging about but he's still got three if not all four wheels off the ground.. One of the Ferraris achieved significantly more ‘air’ than that, but they were going very slowly, relatively, at that point. Ive no reason to believe they don’t generate downforce exceeding the weight of the car at high speeds (and could therefore notionally be driven upside down). Indeed figures around 1600kg of downforce are cited up to 15 years ago, and you’ve only got to look at cornering speeds to see how much that’s increased. Car minimum weights are 740kg, plus fuel and driver, but you’re still well under 1000kg, so it’s not even marginal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 What we'll never know about Lando's lap is where he'd have been if he'd taken a line that didn't go slightly beyond the limit. The top 8 are so tightly packed that it might have been significant. Or it might not. Good to see that Mercedes aren't running away with it, just in time for a new set of rules and someone else (or maybe them again) to get a big advantage that everyone else spends about 5 years trying to close. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I was pleased to see Perez qualify ahead of Verstappen. It is not that I want to see Verstappen beaten but I was starting to think that since Ricciardo's departure, RB, may have become a 1-driver team. The boot is on the other foot from the last race. With Bottas further back, the RBs have 2 cars high up which they may be able to use to force strategy on the lead Merc (I know this didn't actually happen in Bahrain but it was entirely possible). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 18, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 And Checo starting on the soft tyre gives him a chance off the line. Lewis & Max are both on mediums. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I wonder what Max's contract says about being the number one driver, could be interesting as RB have got form... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 hours ago, njee20 said: No idea what you mean about being out of his comfort zone, he seems very happy where he is, outperforming a very highly regarded team mate in Ricciardo. I meant his interview ,he hates them . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2021 Ahhh, roger that! It is interesting in every sport how much more comfortable some are in front of the camera than others! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 He is very comfortable in the car .Its just out of it .My grandaughter Lily is in love with him and going to marry him .She has met him several times and he even turned his Mclaren round in the road to talk to her and her Mum ..She is five .... 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 18, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 Today gives us another chance to assess which new recruits - as distinct from rookies - have stepped up to their new plate. Sainz seems to be taking time to adjust to his new red toy, Danny Ric is certainly not showing Lando how it's done, while Perez had a lousy start to his Red Bull career yet managed to finish a brill fifth. Today he is on the front row. This could be epic. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Zomboid said: And Mazepin hasn't yet shown any evidence that he's fit to drive an F1 car. It's early days, but it's not just his lack of speed that suggests he doesn't have what it takes. He might figure it out before the end of the season though. Possibly after he's seen a fist come his way . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2021 The start could be interesting as the conditions change..... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Did you see the images of some people watching from the slippery, sloped tiles roofs of nearby houses?! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Little showers skittles at turn one? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Oh George, not again. fascinating race so far 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 Was it George, or did Bottas squeeze him a bit too much? We’ll find out what the stewards say after the race 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 Well, what an eventful race. That race had almost everything in it. Those watching on Channel 4 later, enjoy. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 It was exciting on the radio! Will be watching the pics later as a result. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 18, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, newbryford said: The start could be interesting as the conditions change..... 20 mins to go and puddles very visible. Anyone can win on such a day, I thought. It was spectacular, it was violent at times, it is well worth watching. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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