birdseyecircus Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just announced. Paul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Presumably its going to be a generic one size fits all tooling then or is Heljan really tooling up the three different types of saloon needed to correctly carry all those liveries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, Simon Bendall said: Presumably its going to be a generic one size fits all tooling then or is Heljan really tooling up the three different types of saloon needed to correctly carry all those liveries? The launch announcement says: Quote Heljan has said the model will feature DCC-controlled interior lighting, detailed saloons and LMS or B4 bogies, dependent on era/livery. No fewer than 12 liveries are planned, spanning the LMS, BR and Privatisation eras. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Yes but three different types are needed to cover all those liveries accurately with different door and window layouts - LMS built, LMS conversion and BR built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if there were 3 different toolings or they designed it in such a way that they could mix and match parts to make it correct. That seems to be the approach Heljan is taking with the Peaks and Class 47's in OO. They are basically trying to get as much variation out of their tooling as possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBud Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I think this is fantastic news. I have wanted an inspection saloon for some time. Even purchased a kit, but don't have the time to make it. This solves that issue. As for types, I'm in the group where if it looks right and has the right number of wheels then I'm happy and will buy it. Best regards to all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, SirBud said: I'm in the group where if it looks right... Isn't everyone? Where people differ is what they regard as looking right. I suspect, a bit like colour perception, recognising shapes is not a precise science! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmporiaSub Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 If it looks like the top photo, in the blue / grey livery, then that’ll be fine by me..... But we will have to wait and see how many variations, in style, are produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrails Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 A quick goggle finds Class 25, 26, 27,31,33,37, 40,45,47, 50 73 on them in BLue grey But there is really only one question, did a Deltic ever do a run with one? Or any other omissions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Roadrails said: A quick goggle finds Class 25, 26, 27,31,33,37, 40,45,47, 50 73 on them in BLue grey But there is really only one question, did a Deltic ever do a run with one? Or any other omissions? I vaguely remember a 17 at Liverpool Street (I think) — though maybe that was an ex-GER inspection saloon. Sorry that wasn’t very helpful Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Don't know about a Deltic, but I worked the Newton heath saloon back empty from Chester many years ago. In the tunnel approaching Runcorn East the cl 31 shut down out of fuel, coasted to the box that was just at the end of the platform. The signalman had a a pair of cl37's right behind me, walked back met the locos and we proceeded to my train. I was then pushed up to Warrington onto the down goods right behind another cl 31. Quick couple and uncouple and away I went to Newton Heath. There are on Flickr a couple of shots, again of the NH saloon being worked back to Red Bank as the the first vehicle in a lengthy empty parcels train. I'm sure at least one finished as part of a breakdown train formation as well. In one of John Denham's books there's a picture of a single class 20 passing Toton shed, so thats another class to add to the list. Edited December 12, 2020 by w124bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 hours ago, EmporiaSub said: If it looks like the top photo, in the blue / grey livery, then that’ll be fine by me..... But we will have to wait and see how many variations, in style, are produced. Hattons appear to have more details of the full production. However, whether they will have the correct body style for each, as Clive mentions, remains to be seen, Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Here is food for thought don’t pre order this and don’t buy it when it comes out and you’ll be able to buy it 6 months later for at least 20% off when Hattons reduce their price.....simples. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 saw this painted example on the Heljan stand at MIOG yesterday quite looks the business, the main 'error' is having the three end windows identical rather than the droplight in the ends to match the 'window/door/window' configuration that they have produced, bu.t a simple matter of adding the droplight later. The roof is held on by a series of magnets along the length of the body to allow population of the various areas. All in all looking very good. cheers Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The first decorated examples are on the Rails and Tower websites today. Reading through the 'Specification' on the Rails site, they are being fitted with three link couplings! I will ponder the other details and see if and which way I might jump. regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted April 8 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8 On 13/12/2020 at 08:46, delticfan said: Here is food for thought don’t pre order this and don’t buy it when it comes out and you’ll be able to buy it 6 months later for at least 20% off when Hattons reduce their price.....simples. Not sure quite so simples now 😜 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I noticed on the EWS version there is now what could be construed as a droplight in the centre window at the end, I wonder if they appear in other versions as well? End views have not been posted for all versions. will the ventilators be included in the 'Add-ons' pack? One that I built some time ago from a Sidelines kit. regards Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesime Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I'd like to see the loadhaul version in the flesh. Always wanted the Ews one, but that loadhaul is starting to appeal. Hopefully they will make the shops soon ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 08/04/2024 at 19:11, Ressaldar said: I noticed on the EWS version there is now what could be construed as a droplight in the centre window at the end, I wonder if they appear in other versions as well? End views have not been posted for all versions. The centre window was a droplight on all the LMS built saloons, you occasionally see a photo of one with it open. From the photos Heljan has released, they are using the same tooling to cover two different LMS diagrams and the BR one, meaning there are compromises in the door and window layout on some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted August 21 Administrators Share Posted August 21 The first coach with a toilet roll? A doll's house gas cooker? Wholly unnecessary but brilliant all the same. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted August 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, AY Mod said: The first coach with a toilet roll? But does the paper dangle from the back or the driver's side?😉 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted August 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21 6 minutes ago, AY Mod said: The first coach with a toilet roll? A doll's house gas cooker? Wholly unnecessary but brilliant all the same. With today's capabilities, you would think it would be bog standard. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 7 hours ago, AY Mod said: Needs a 3D printed pot noodle on the table. Edited August 21 by Night Train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mol_PMB Posted August 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21 19 minutes ago, Night Train said: Needs a 3D printed pot noodle on the table. That would be about as tasty as a normal pot noodle! Having gone to the effort of the bog roll, I'm surprised at the absence of a mirror in the smallest room. With a suitable crest or double arrow frosted into it of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmporiaSub Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Needs a decoder operated toilet handle for flushing……🤦🏼♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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