Guest Jack Benson Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) In the early 50s, Royal Mail used a Morris LC van. Vanguard made a 1/43 example but Budgie/Morestone offered a very basic version. Does anyone know the scale of the Budgie model? Finally, has anyone ever offered a 1/76 version either as a kit or RTR. Thanks and Stay Safe Edited March 3, 2021 by Jack Benson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I don't know if there's one on the RTI list, Jack:- https://www.roadtransportimages.com/shop 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2020 The Budgie one was smaller than 1/76 by quite a margin. The actual scale depends on which part you measure due to the odd proportions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Fat Controller said: I don't know if there's one on the RTI list, Jack:- https://www.roadtransportimages.com/shop Hi, Thanks Phil, RTI do offer the ‘long bonnet’ Morris cab, which could be incorporated into a Royal Mail van with a scratchbuilt body. Thankfully, the Vanguard model (below) provides some of the details that cannot be seen by looking at pictures and I might acquire an example if only to use it as a guide. Finding 1:76 Royal Mail decals might be a pain..... Cheers and Stay Safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jack Benson said: Hi, Thanks Phil, RTI do offer the ‘long bonnet’ Morris cab, which could be incorporated into a Royal Mail van with a scratchbuilt body. Thankfully, the Vanguard model (below) provides some of the details that cannot be seen by looking at pictures and I might acquire an example if only to use it as a guide. Finding 1:76 Royal Mail decals might be a pain..... Cheers and Stay Safe You might find RTI do the transfers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2020 The only thing about Royal Mail is that they change the style of their logo quite often so when selecting transfers make sure that they are correct for your period and especially the Royal Cypher. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipbadger Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 John Day Models (Daryl Toney) have one listed but it is not on the price list published over a year ago. May be worth contacting them to see how it is progressing. http://www.johndaymodels.co.uk/our-models/gpo-vehicles/#jp-carousel-314 Tony Comber 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Searle Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Langley Model G40 is an earlier version might be of use? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 A speedy response from Daryl - "It's GPO 11 your after, it won't be this year I'm afraid because I have bought several other ranges which is consuming all of my time at the moment but as soon as I have made the master pattern it will be announced." Cheers and Stay Safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Daryle (John Day Models) also has the LC5 dropside truck ("Heartbeat's "Greengrass" lorry) and the British Railways parcel van if you fancy doing a modification. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 "Finding 1:76 Royal Mail decals might be a pain" ( Jack above). I was looking for Royal Mail and Post Office Telephones transfers or decals a while ago. Langley Models do them - here's the link to that section of their website. My recollection is that anyone can't just run these up and sell them: you need to obtain the appropriate clearance, because the Crown is on the Royal Mail insignia and presumably also because these are registered logos. I've used both of these Langley transfer sets, and am pleased with the result. There are also lots of other lorry or van liveries here - various oil and brewery companies, Pickfords, GWR and BRS, Blue Circle Cement etc. https://www.langleymodels.co.uk/awd1/index.php?route=product/category&path=190_196 John Storey 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javlinfaw7 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Langley transfers look odd they appear to be for the reign of King George but have a female crown. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Have a look at the BlackSquare decals site as I had some for a Royal Mail van myself. He does bespoke ones too if you have an image of your requirements. https://blacksquaredecals.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=royal mail Edited January 23, 2021 by gwrrob added detail. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Hi, A chance discovery of an image of a Royal Mail Austin 7 van with the GR cypher did get me excited as I have an unwanted Oxford Diecast yellow AA model which could do with a coat of red. Black Square offer some suitable GR decals.....but they will need to be dramatically reduced as they are definitely not 1:76. Or use the Hornby Dublo version and fudge the E into a G or simply stick the van at the back of the layout?... Thank you Edited March 3, 2021 by Jack Benson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2021 Its not an Austin 7 but a Morris 8. Morris/Morris Commercial were the principal supplier of light commercials to the GPO from the 1920's to the 1970's. They even continued the production of the earlier 8 chassis at the behest of the GPO but upgraded it with the later radiator grill and 'Easiclean' wheels of the current car model, as in the illustration. Several makes were tested by the GPO in the 1920's before they settled on Morris and there may have been the odd Austin 7 among them but they would have been disposed of quite quickly once the chosen vehicles were in service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Its not an Austin 7 but a Morris 8. Morris/Morris Commercial were the principal supplier of light commercials to the GPO from the 1920's to the 1970's. They even continued the production of the earlier 8 chassis at the behest of the GPO but upgraded it with the later radiator grill and 'Easiclean' wheels of the current car model, as in the illustration. Several makes were tested by the GPO in the 1920's before they settled on Morris and there may have been the odd Austin 7 among them but they would have been disposed of quite quickly once the chosen vehicles were in service. Phil, I posted the wrong image and was busy editing it. Is the new photo an Austin? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jack Benson said: Phil, I posted the wrong image and was busy editing it. Is the new photo an Austin? Thanks No thats a Morris, if you compare the two they are the same except that the first picture you posted was of the upgraded one that was placed in service in the late 1930's. IIRC Springside produced a white metal kit of the Morris. Until WW2 the GPO only purchased the bare chassis and had bodies fitted to their own specifications. Duple among others built the bodies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Thanks, evidently I cannot tell the difference between the Austin and Morris....oh well, worse things happen at sea. The hideous yellow Austin 7 van will just have to do, is the main problem the radiator? Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2021 Do you really need to convert it to Royal Mail? If not you can paint it in any colour you like. Langley's have a range of suitable transfers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Hi, The layout is supposedly stuck in ‘48-52 in rural West Dorset, I am trying to backdate the details to replicate the late ‘40s. The images of the Morris van popped up during a search for late ‘40s Royal Mail road vehicles, currently represented by a Thames e83w. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) The Thames E83W is a perfectly legitimate vehicle for that period as many were supplied to the GPO during the war. Also in that period the GPO used ex military vehicles but usually modified somewhat. They also used ex NFS Austin auxiliary towing vehicles as post vans. You could convert one of the Oxford models to one. Edited March 5, 2021 by PhilJ W spill chucker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Phil, Having just received the Oxford AA Austin 7 van, SWMBO informed me that it was much too cute to even think about repainting......however the local fishmonger does need a van. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Jack Benson said: Phil, Having just received the Oxford AA Austin 7 van, SWMBO informed me that it was much too cute to even think about repainting......however the local fishmonger does need a van. Jack They come in other colours too including a rather nice cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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