fail safe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Its not just about unhappy Guild members. Its about a new fresh way and new modellers to 7mm scale. Nobody talks about the Guild any more we've got over it. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fail safe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 17 hours ago, t-b-g said: My hope is that once those who have been clearly unhappy being members of the Guild make the move to the new group, that the Guild forum will be able to go back to essentially a modelling place, rather than a place full of accusations, insults and suchlike. I think it's very important to point out here that people were not, unhappy being members, but unhappy with the way the Guild is run with its old boy network, style of management. Accusations were not exclusive to so called unhappy members, it came from both sides. The Guild forum has places to discuss the running of the organisation, and its politics, and if anyone didn't like it they didn't have to read it. The new place is a web based on-line society, and will be teaming up with all sorts of other modellers groups and organisations, and as such does not need a printed magazine that costs a lot to produce. Other people like BRM do that very well already. This is for the future, and is just the start. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2020 We are in danger of going around in circles here, and it will just be the same old sorry tale of arguments for and against the Gauge O Guild that have been aired to death before now in other sections of this forum. Let's just knock this on the head once and for all. Let the G0G travel along one route and the 7mm Scale Society another. You can't change history however much you try, but we do have the opportunity to change the future. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fail safe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: We are in danger of going around in circles here . 'Knock it on the head'? And most certainly nobody is trying to change history! Where did the come from? Are you the one line policeman? I can not see where anyone has been arguing and going round in circles. And I can not see any arguments for or against the Guild here, just a few answers and the fact that most people have indeed put it behind them, and have taken action to change wherever that future would have been. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, fail safe said: . 'Knock it on the head'? And most certainly nobody is trying to change history! Where did the come from? Are you the one line policeman? I can not see where anyone has been arguing and going round in circles. And I can not see any arguments for or against the Guild here, just a few answers and the fact that most people have indeed put it behind them, and have taken action to change wherever that future would have been. What's a one line policeman? My apologies for using the term trying to change history. I'm just trying to be diplomatic over this. Perhaps, regurgitating the same old tired stories that those that have been active on this forum for some time, keep seeing, might be a more appropriate statement. What happened in the G0G forum should have stayed in the G0G forum, and one of the reasons it spilled over into RMWeb was probably due to what I would say, were dubious moderating decisions at the time, which resulted in peoples opinions on the GOG forum being stifled. That's now been resolved. By all means 'big up' the 7mm Scale Society. It's new, fresh and has a great future, let's leave further reference to the G0G and what they've done in the past out of it. Please don't think I'm one of the 'old boys' of the Guild. Yes, I am a member, but was also a founding member of the Reform Group on Facebook. I'm pretty sure it was one of my comments there about, going our own way was the first public (ish) suggestion that we needed another society. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fail safe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: I'm pretty sure it was one of my comments there about, going our own way was the first public (ish) suggestion that we needed another society. . I don't think so! The fact that many people desired a new society has been mentioned many times. Planning has been underway for many months. Best we leave this alone now as things have moved on anyway. In any case, no one is regurgitating the same old stories, as you say, where do you get this from? They weren't stories in the first place, they may have been things you disagreed with for sure, but not stories. Since you ask, I meant, on line policeman. Someone who attempts to tell others how to say the things they want to say, and what not to say. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Moderators - As the OP can I ask that this thread now be locked. It is beginning to wander into murky waters. Thank you. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, fail safe said: I think it's very important to point out here that people were not, unhappy being members, but unhappy with the way the Guild is run with its old boy network, style of management. Accusations were not exclusive to so called unhappy members, it came from both sides. The Guild forum has places to discuss the running of the organisation, and its politics, and if anyone didn't like it they didn't have to read it. The new place is a web based on-line society, and will be teaming up with all sorts of other modellers groups and organisations, and as such does not need a printed magazine that costs a lot to produce. Other people like BRM do that very well already. This is for the future, and is just the start. As people have started to say, time to leave the past behind and look forward I think. Edited December 7, 2020 by t-b-g Spelling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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