RMweb Gold melmoth Posted September 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10 (edited) @MrWolf If you have access to a copy of Great Western Aspects by Kevin Robertson (isbn 9781909328303), there is a 40 page article on the Economic System of Maintenance which includes a much clearer picture of what is described as 'a wayside telephone and occupation-key hut' (page 44 of book). I'll try to take a photo of the photo if I can get a moment this morning, but time and technology are against me right now. Edited September 10 by melmoth omission 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlington_Shed Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Always happy to go in pursuit of someone else's rabbit, I found this one: https://www.osbornsmodels.com/noch-14306-scales-187-scale-ho-scale-lineside-phone-box-laser-cut-minis-kit-50395-p.asp Of continental origin but looks very like the one in the original photo. I'll let someone else do the scale conversion 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted September 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10 Here’s one I found in an odd corner of my shed- seems to have a phone line installed ! Here is the publication too . 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold melmoth Posted September 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, melmoth said: @MrWolf If you have access to a copy of Great Western Aspects by Kevin Robertson (isbn 9781909328303), there is a 40 page article on the Economic System of Maintenance which includes a much clearer picture of what is described as 'a wayside telephone and occupation-key hut' (page 44 of book). I'll try to take a photo of the photo if I can get a moment this morning, but time and technology are against me right now. Et voila... 13 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted September 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10 On 09/09/2024 at 16:23, MrWolf said: A bus would just result in another big hole in the backscene... A tractor would be a good idea, but, I'm trying not to overpopulate the layout with vehicles and / or figures particularly at this end. Even today, Aston is a quiet place, somewhere the tourists just pass through on the way to Clun castle. I've only planned for a few figures, one at the garage, immersed in swearing at a recalcitrant Austin 7, then two or three at the station. It's a bit of a balancing act. How about a four legged tractor, with or without a cart, or even pulling a tree trunk out of the plantation. 6 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted September 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11 21 hours ago, melmoth said: Et voila... This is interesting as having a couple of days ago looked to see when the GWR installed telephones in the Great Western Journal it had an article from 1903 saying they had put an exchange into Paddington. Does this phone line go to the nearest box or further? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11 14 minutes ago, ChrisN said: This is interesting as having a couple of days ago looked to see when the GWR installed telephones in the Great Western Journal it had an article from 1903 saying they had put an exchange into Paddington. Does this phone line go to the nearest box or further? My understanding is that all the signal post and signal box phones were on an area circuit, and that depending on which button you pushed, you could speak either to the local box, or from one box to an adjacent box, or to the whole circuit, or to area control. But I may be speaking out of turn, thinking of Midland / LMS practice rather than GWR practice, so would welcome clarification. 2 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11 46 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: My understanding is that all the signal post and signal box phones were on an area circuit, and that depending on which button you pushed, you could speak either to the local box, or from one box to an adjacent box, or to the whole circuit, or to area control. But I may be speaking out of turn, thinking of Midland / LMS practice rather than GWR practice, so would welcome clarification. That's pretty much the case as regards the ex-GW boxes I was associated with in work days. I seem to remember that there was a list of telephone bell codes you rang, depending on which box you wanted to speak to. I don't think there was anything to stop others on the same circuit listening in to your conversation, either! 2 2 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 13 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: That's pretty much the case as regards the ex-GW boxes I was associated with in work days. I seem to remember that there was a list of telephone bell codes you rang, depending on which box you wanted to speak to. I don't think there was anything to stop others on the same circuit listening in to your conversation, either! And there was a time where domestic phone lines were shared between households where it was possible to listen to your neighbour on the phone. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11 29 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: That's pretty much the case as regards the ex-GW boxes I was associated with in work days. I seem to remember that there was a list of telephone bell codes you rang, depending on which box you wanted to speak to. I don't think there was anything to stop others on the same circuit listening in to your conversation, either! "Anyone on?" 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted September 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11 Ok so now I've stopped looking I'll be finding pics of these huts everywhere. Regards Lez. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: My understanding is that all the signal post and signal box phones were on an area circuit, and that depending on which button you pushed, you could speak either to the local box, or from one box to an adjacent box, or to the whole circuit, or to area control. But I may be speaking out of turn, thinking of Midland / LMS practice rather than GWR practice, so would welcome clarification. On ours (heritage railway - I don't know how authentic this is to earlier practice), there's a single omnibus line between the boxes for signalman to signalman conversations, but each box has it's own concentrator for the signal post telephones, so that the phone is connected directly to the controlling box, and the signalman knows from which signal he's being called. 3 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 Thanks go out to @lezz01, @GWR57xx, @Captain Kernow, @melmoth, @Darlington_Shed, @Limpley Stoker and @SimonHMT for their efforts and contributions on the matter of the very small shed. I think that I have enough information between the photos and the drawings of the fogman's hut in order to draw up something convincing and dig out the plastic sheets. Typically, I had started at the wrong end of the book shelves and my copy of Great Western Aspects was at the other end. It did also mean a skim read of Great Western Infrastructure 1922-1934 ISBN 978-1-909328-25-9 that that also has some very interesting information within particularly in relation to signalling, another job on the to do list. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrWolf Posted Saturday at 00:05 Author Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 00:05 A slight diversion from the telephone hut are these GWR storage huts which arrived early this week from Matt, @Brinkly at Dartmoor Model Services. Thanks also to @Graham T and @gwrrob for tracking them down as I couldn't remember who made them. Straight out of the box, I'm impressed by the roofing, its edges are very thin and well defined. I'll give them a waft of primer followed by the house colours. I only actually need one for Aston, the other two I have a plan for and although it's a way off, I think it is a good idea to support anyone who is making niche items like this. 24 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrWolf Posted Saturday at 09:24 Author Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 09:24 I've had the crayons out and using the details from other GWR huts plus the photos of original huts, I've made a drawing of how I think the telephone hut should look. 16 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted Saturday at 10:56 RMweb Premium Share Posted Saturday at 10:56 (edited) 17 hours ago, MrWolf said: I think it is a good idea to support anyone who is making niche items like this. Couldn't agree more there Rob. I've been squirrelling away bits like this for years. Use it or loose it, I say. Maybe someone out there will produce a phone hut 3D print one day? 😜 Edited Saturday at 17:37 by Tim Dubya 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted Saturday at 16:26 Share Posted Saturday at 16:26 6 hours ago, MrWolf said: I've had the crayons out and using the details from other GWR huts plus the photos of original huts, I've made a drawing of how I think the telephone hut should look. Sorry Rob can't resist but look it's got four sides and a pitched roof. I'll go and lie down in a darkened room as all this excitement is too much. Matron the pills. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted Saturday at 19:59 RMweb Gold Share Posted Saturday at 19:59 (edited) 10 hours ago, MrWolf said: I've had the crayons out and using the details from other GWR huts plus the photos of original huts, I've made a drawing of how I think the telephone hut should look. It’s a shame you don’t have a friend that could draw one and 3D print it for you 😉 Were in Kidderminster this weekend so walked to the SVR for a look around, going again tomorrow to ride on the choo choos Anyway took this Also after seeing this…. ….I’m wondering if I should add a CC3 to my range Edited Saturday at 20:03 by chuffinghell 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlington_Shed Posted Saturday at 22:04 Share Posted Saturday at 22:04 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Anyway took this That's interesting, 'cos when I look at that blurry photo Rob first posted I could easily be persuaded it has a curved roof. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted Saturday at 22:20 Author Share Posted Saturday at 22:20 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: It’s a shame you don’t have a friend that could draw one and 3D print it for you 😉 It did cross my mind but I dismissed the idea as you're likely to be up to your ears with 3D work. You may have just talked yourself into a job... 😉 I suspect that it's something that other people might be interested in too and could be printed in batches? 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Were in Kidderminster this weekend so walked to the SVR for a look around, going again tomorrow to ride on the choo choos Anyway took this Now that's a top shelf shed! Not seen one that small before. It's like some kind of armoured Portaloo... At a rough estimate based on 2'6" wide sheets of 2" corrugations I'm thinking of a footprint of about 2'10 x 3'6". Height to the top of the door arc 6'6", top of roof 6'8"-6'9". 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Also after seeing this…. ….I’m wondering if I should add a CC3 to my range Interesting, I suspect that the only challenge will be allowing enough lateral movement in the centre axle, although I have a few ideas on that one. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted Saturday at 22:23 Author Share Posted Saturday at 22:23 17 minutes ago, Darlington_Shed said: That's interesting, 'cos when I look at that blurry photo Rob first posted I could easily be persuaded it has a curved roof. I suspect that tin hut is a later version of the wooden telephone hut, or possibly something that contained an Elsan chemical toilet in the 1920s. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted Sunday at 08:13 RMweb Gold Share Posted Sunday at 08:13 12 hours ago, chuffinghell said: That's also a rather nice looking lamp. 4 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted Sunday at 11:06 Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:06 Looks to have a working mantle in it too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted Sunday at 11:20 RMweb Gold Share Posted Sunday at 11:20 You can get a nice little laser-cut fogman's hut from Railmodel. Looks like they have improved the hinges since I got mine too. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted Sunday at 13:43 RMweb Gold Share Posted Sunday at 13:43 17 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Anyway took this I hope you give it back afterwards! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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