MrWolf Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 What I'm trying to achieve is something like this. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 3 hours ago, MrWolf said: What I'm trying to achieve is something like this. Rob how are you intending to represent the needles- that's a technical term for the green stuff by the way. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 55 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: Rob how are you intending to represent the needles- that's a technical term for the green stuff by the way. I'm glad someone asked the question. Those hanging fronds are pretty unusual and even in 4mm are quite distinctive. The advice given is to apply strong hairspray to the branches and apply long static grass. The trick is that before the hairspray sets, take a hairdryer set on hot and blow the fibres downwards. A cheap N nasty hairdryer is best for this. I'll add some very fine turf mix (that Woodlands Scenics Fine scatter foam type ought to be about right) for the little seed cones and a dusting 2mm fibres on the crown of the tree. Or I could: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1106481212/european-forest-larch-12-16-cm-51-4202? Very nice indeed, but there's no way I'm spending half a grand on a dozen trees. Never mind the Memsahib, I'd chase myself round the garden with a sword.... 6 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 This I'd like to see. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 Larch branches as per Gordon Gravett or the impossible sword thing? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 To paraphrase - do the hard stuff first, the impossible you can do later. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted August 6 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6 I think that @Re6/6 may have cracked the larch foliage question... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: I think that @Re6/6 may have cracked the larch foliage question... Any alternative method would be welcome before I commit to applying foliage. Don't keep us in suspense!🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted August 6 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6 58 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Don't keep us in suspense! I won't, but I'm not totally sure what his method is, so I was hoping @Re6/6 would see this and respond! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 6 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6 (edited) 14 hours ago, MrWolf said: The advice given is to apply strong hairspray to the branches and apply long static grass. I would be inclined to use WWS or Peco (same thing) layering spray rather than hairspray the grip of which does deteriorate over time which I found to my cost! 14 hours ago, MrWolf said: The trick is that before the hairspray sets, take a hairdryer set on hot and blow the fibres downwards. I gleaned this method from a comercial manufacturer. 32 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: I won't, but I'm not totally sure what his method is, so I was hoping @Re6/6 would see this and respond! 32 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: I'm afraid that I haven't perfected my method yet! One could do no better than guidance from Gordon Gravett's conifer trees book. This is a manufacturer's larch on Marsh Sidings.. Edited August 6 by Re6/6 9 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 7 hours ago, Re6/6 said: I would be inclined to use WWS or Peco (same thing) layering spray rather than hairspray the grip of which does deteriorate over time which I found to my cost! Good point, Miss R said that the slightest amount of dampness in the air causes hairspray to degrade as it's designed to be washed out. Or if it rains, one's soft curls turn into Spaniel's ears... I was going to add that I would be applying a mist of acrylic car lacquer once the tree is complete, but as I have WWS layering spray in stock, I'll use that. Experience so far tells me that it's well worth the money. 7 hours ago, Re6/6 said: I gleaned this method from a comercial manufacturer. I'm afraid that I haven't perfected my method yet! One could do no better than guidance from Gordon Gravett's conifer trees book. Well, I'll share the results on here and maybe we'll all develop a method to make them. I'm working straight out of Gordon's book, first attempt at conifers, so I'm just working through the steps. 7 hours ago, Re6/6 said: This is a manufacturer's larch on Marsh Sidings.. If I can get mine to look that good, then I've swam the Pacific! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Hmmm I think lowering ones sights might be being called for say Windermere as you could get the bus there. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevel Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Check out boomer diorama's on YT, he has a whole playlist on tree making, that is well worth watching. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 7 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7 (edited) Here's a superb site to trawl though (all 110+ pages of it!) The quality of the work is just top notch. After a lot of digging, there are some very useful 'how to' posts. Look out for one Dutch guy 'Grove Den'. His work is amazing. Google Translate will work well. https://www.stummiforum.de/t18449f64-Baumbau-und-Str-ucher-105.html Edited August 7 by Re6/6 Picture added 11 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 Am beeindruckendsten! Or in English: Wow! Thanks for finding and posting. Might have to pull up the tracks and make more room for trees... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 12 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: Hmmm I think lowering ones sights might be being called for say Windermere as you could get the bus there. Did you just say.... BUS .....? As for Windermere, £5 on the bike, £15 on the B*s. Rowed across it, (hard work but fun), swam in it, (cold and just plain stupid). 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 On 06/08/2024 at 22:09, MrWolf said: Good point, Miss R said that the slightest amount of dampness in the air causes hairspray to degrade as it's designed to be washed out. Or if it rains, one's soft curls turn into Spaniel's ears... I was going to add that I would be applying a mist of acrylic car lacquer once the tree is complete, but as I have WWS layering spray in stock, I'll use that. Experience so far tells me that it's well worth the money. You might also try misting on scenic cement such as Woodland Scenics. When it first goes on you'll have a "what have I done" moment as there are loads of white blobs but it dries clear and matt. There seem to be many variants on a theme for tree making. Even Gordon Gravett's book suggests more than one so use what works for you. Alex 5 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 Thanks Alex, I'll have a look at that, it sounds like the first time I varnished one of my paintings, the whole surface went milky, but the end result was really an improvement. I think that because they've been around for decades we often forget that Woodland Scenics materials were quite revolutionary, before that it was dyed sawdust and felt raked out of old car seats if you wanted to create realistic greenery. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrWolf Posted August 15 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 15 Slow progress as work and other projects have been taking over, all I've managed so far is to give the armatures a misting of Tamiya red brown from the top down, leaving the trunks mostly grey. An even lighter mist of olive drab (when it arrives) should take them a little closer to the desired look before hand painting some more texture and weathering. 21 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted August 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15 Treemendous! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted August 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15 Excellent arboreal skills ! Reminds me of this part of Silk Wood at Westonbirt Arboretum where it’s very larchy ! 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Larchy Tremendous then. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Obvs. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrWolf Posted August 16 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 16 (edited) Distractions from important things like making trees have been little jobs like replacing the driver's floor and body to chassis mounts on the Memsahib's KleinePanzer. I've known it needed doing for quite a while but I also expected it to be a can of worms. Extreme air conditioning. The new floorpan. Bottom of the bulkhead cut away. This was rusted out and badly patched. The end of the chassis outrigger needs replacing where the mounting bolt passes through. Bottom of the B post cut away where it was rotted and to allow access to the rear of the two body mounts. Edited August 16 by MrWolf 15 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I never cease to be amazed at people's ability to cut out rusted steel and weld in a purpose made replacement to get back to near original. The engineering guys on the NNR where I volunteer have cut a wasted section out of the bottom of the boiler of our Austerity 2-10-0 and fabricated and fitted replacement steel sections. Brilliant skill, patience and ingenuity by all concerned including Mr W. 5 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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