TRAILRAGE Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Hello John Just sent an email regarding availably of the following:- 4B01 : AXLE MOTION for bogie aggregate and iron ore tipplers 4A04 : Lima adapter to convert Lima wagon bodies to fit AME bogies WU6 : WARFLAT / WARWELL bufferbeam jacks BW1 : 4.0mm 6 spokes Hand Brake Wheels. My computer decided to go freaky on me at that point and I didn't get to put my postal address in. I will send it when I have your reply. Cheers Trailrage Edited June 17, 2021 by TRAILRAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 This is a bit of a forlorn hope, but you never know - common sense suggests that these were probably moulded in equal numbers, but perhaps only one part of the mould filled well? Can I ask anyone who bought the warwell/flat jacks from John to check their delivery and see if there are any of the opposite hand to to those in my picture - if you have all the other type, perhaps we can arrange to swap to get sets? John has checked and CCTs stock is all one handed, although actually I should have checked that it isn't the hand I need... Thanks Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2021 Put one on the other way round? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 They are smooth other side, I think it might be possible to thin the right hand side then give the whole lot a little tweek with a pair of pliers to make them symmetrical, which might work, but won't be quite as good as having a few that were right way round. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 26, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, jonhall said: This is a bit of a forlorn hope, but you never know - common sense suggests that these were probably moulded in equal numbers, but perhaps only one part of the mould filled well? Can I ask anyone who bought the warwell/flat jacks from John to check their delivery and see if there are any of the opposite hand to to those in my picture - if you have all the other type, perhaps we can arrange to swap to get sets? John has checked and CCTs stock is all one handed, although actually I should have checked that it isn't the hand I need... Thanks Jon Regrettably, I didn't notice that these castings are handed until at least one order had been despatched; as they are all one handed, I have had to withdraw them from sale. Sorry, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I've been doing a little work on some of my acquisitions, two dia 1/411 bogie slab coils have given enough bits to make one wagon, and might have enough left overs to make one of the internal users photographed by Paul Bartlett that lost a lot of the frames and handrails. I'm not quite sure what I might do with either of these, they seem to be a South Wales thing, and I'm not modelling there. Just visible in front is a Coil K, and I DO need these, they were very common at Hamworthy. Alas there were only sufficient V hangers for one wagon, and a set of frames for a second, so I might start looking at drawing this for etch. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I've become distracted by the bits of tank wagon I aquired from John, so I have two questions to the audience 1) The CO2 tank - what length of pipe is needed to fit between the cone ends? 2) the Caustic Soda tank - does anyone know which (if any) of the saddles John lists (listed below to save you looking) are the correct type? Presumably as well as the ribs, there is a fairly high likelyhood of being for different barrel diameters? TF1a : HALF TANK SADDLE (steel, with tank strap, 4) TF1b : HALF TANK SADDLE (steel, plain one side, raised edge the other side, 4) TF1c : HALF TANK SADDLE (steel, raised edge & central rib both sides, thin, 4) TF1d : HALF TANK SADDLE (steel, raised edge & central rib both sides, thick, 4) TF5d : TANK SADDLE (10mm thick, 4) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Because my caustic soda tank has reached the point it needs some saddles.. Thanks Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jonhall said: Because my caustic soda tank has reached the point it needs some saddles.. Thanks Jon If you can post an image of the prototype saddle, I could tell you if any of the AME castings are a match. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I think we are probably looking at one of these https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/icicausticsodatua/e344644c7 where the saddles are cosmetically all hidden by the skirt, so the main criteria would be the barrel diameter, which I haven't yet worked out. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Although having been browsing Pauls site, I wonder about the potential to use the AME chassis with a Dublo Chlorine tank body to represent one of these https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/associatedocteltankwagon/e6a7320e3 Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jonhall said: I think we are probably looking at one of these https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/icicausticsodatua/e344644c7 where the saddles are cosmetically all hidden by the skirt, so the main criteria would be the barrel diameter, which I haven't yet worked out. Jon Jon, I don't think that this style of wagon had saddles as such; what you see are continuous anchor angles between tank and chassis. I doubt the practicability of using the Dublo tank wagon body; look at the Plastruct EMA range for suitable tubes / ends. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I was thinking that a couple of saddles would tie the two sides together, and provide a good way of locating the barrel, and give a support to the anchor angle - certainly the CO2 tank in the AME range seemed to take this approach. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2021 7 hours ago, jonhall said: I was thinking that a couple of saddles would tie the two sides together, and provide a good way of locating the barrel, and give a support to the anchor angle - certainly the CO2 tank in the AME range seemed to take this approach. Jon Since these would be non-protypical saddles, I would need to know the barrel diamenter in order to advise you if I have anything suitable. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hi John, I've seen mention elsewhere that you might also have some of AME's transfers range? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted November 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Wayne 37901 said: Hi John, I've seen mention elsewhere that you might also have some of AME's transfers range? Cheers 'Fraid not - if there are any remaining you'd need to talk to John Talbot. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakdale Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hi John, Has there been any development about aquiring his paints. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted November 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Oakdale said: Hi John, Has there been any development about aquiring his paints. Regards John I believe that there has been contact between Phoenix and John Talbot. C J I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakdale Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 OK Thanks John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I've been building Appleby bogies over the weekend, well Appleby sideframes and my own etched Y25 inners, first I built a batch of Y27's, then realised that I needed cast Y25's! My y25 etch was the first etch I designed, and was intended to make the Cambrian y25 bogie easier to build, but its a pretty common wheelbase, s I also use it for other types. The Applyby Y27's needed the axlebox holes elongated a little, probably because of the slight contractions often found when casting whitemetal, but the cast Y25's fitted without modification. What I did do was open out the holes in the sideframes - when I designed the etch I was using a mire expensive etcher, and the idea of test etches would have been far too expensive to entertain, so I only provided a set of 3 etched holes so that a handbrake drive could pass through the sideframe, however in practice these are actually strong enough to take a bit more metal out, so I started by drilling a 3mm hole through the middle of the 3 small holes Otherwise the bogie was assembled as I would have done for the plastic Cambrians, with the exception that I can low-melt solder the Appleby frames to the etch. I did also find that the Appleby frames were a bit chunkier at the bottom, so the side didn't sit entirely vertical until I started filing them a little bit wedge shaped. And the reason I need quite so many bogies! Jon 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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