RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) During my discussions with John Talbot (Appleby Model Engineering), it has emerged that he has a very large quantity of castings from his kits, that he is about to melt down. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT JOHN TO TRY AND ACQUIRE SUCH CASTINGS; I AM TRYING TO SEE IF IT IS PRACTICABLE TO MAKE THESE AVAILABLE WITHOUT TROUBLING JOHN. Amongst those castings are a number from John's 4mm. scale ICI bogie hopper kit. It occurs to me that these castings may be useful to anyone who might wish to build either the ICI hoppers or, in particular, the JOHN SUMMERS / BSC hoppers which were very similar indeed - having a slightly lower hopper. It should be fairly simple to scratchbuild the hopper itself from brass or plasic card and, as far as I can tell, the castings would provide most / all of the difficult bits. Naturally, the castings would be made up into sets to make one wagon, and would be offered in the simplest possible format - probably in a poly bag within a Jiffy bag for posting; NO INSTRUCTIONS would be provided. In the first instance I would welcome an indication of the likely demand for the castings shown above; if there is sufficient potential demand, I will discuss the matter further with John Talbot. Regards, John Isherwood. PLEASE NOTE : It has subsequently transpired that, other than the bogie castings and the ICI etches, the bogie hopper wagon components are NOT amongst those remaining for sale. Edited June 15, 2021 by cctransuk 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I'm not particularly interested in the ICI hopper, but any of the bogies or buffers would find a home with me. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlington North Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'd certainly be interested in building a short rake of hoppers from those parts. Say 4 sets. Rather than see the parts melted down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I spoke to John very recently when I ordered some transfers, we discussed this very subject. My particular interest was for any remaining FPA chassis, I'm still interested if they are amongst those that survive Regards Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post John Isherwood Posted July 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 hours ago, cctransuk said: During my discussions with John Talbot (Appleby Model Engineering), it has emerged that he has a very large quantity of castings from his kits, that he is about to melt down. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT JOHN TO TRY AND ACQUIRE SUCH CASTINGS; I AM TRYING TO SEE IF IT IS PRACTICABLE TO MAKE THESE AVAILABLE WITHOUT TROUBLING JOHN. Amongst those castings are a number from John's 4mm. scale ICI bogie hopper kit. It occurs to me that these castings may be useful to anyone who might wish to build either the ICI hoppers or, in particular, the JOHN SUMMERS / BSC hoppers which were very similar indeed - having a slightly lower hopper. It should be fairly simple to scratchbuild the hopper itself from brass or plasic card and, as far as I can tell, the castings would provide most / all of the difficult bits. Naturally, the castings would be made up into sets to make one wagon, and would be offered in the simplest possible format - probably in a poly bag within a Jiffy bag for posting; NO INSTRUCTIONS would be provided. In the first instance I would welcome an indication of the likely demand for the castings shown above; if there is sufficient potential demand, I will discuss the matter further with John Talbot. Regards, John Isherwood. I have just had a very productive telephone conversation with John Talbot - who has more than enough on his plate to be bothered with 4mm. scale castings. It has been agreed that the (several thousand) castings will NOT now be melted down. I will take charge of them, sort them, (a considerable task as may be imagined); and then list and offer them for sale here and probably on my website; https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm . Suffice to say that no-one will be making significant money from the operation, so prices will be reasonable (cheap)! The aim is to ensure that useful castings are put to good use. There remains the logistics of transporting the castings - a not insignificant weight - from Worcester to Bodmin. My wife and I travel up and down the M5 three or four times per year, to visit family; so we can call in and collect the castings from John in due course. This transfer will NOT be immediate - my wife is vulnerable to Covid-19 and is due to have a cataract operation very shortly. So, there will now be a modest interlude before I am in a position to list what is available, pricing and give details of ordering procedures. Be assured that John's 4mm. stock is safe, and will be available in due course; please be patient and watch this space. Regards, John Isherwood. 6 8 1 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted July 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2020 Not sure that anything would be of interest to me, but thank you for taking the time to organise it. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'm under starters orders! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Excellent John that is great news on John Talbots castings I had wondered what had happened to them. I would certainly be interested in the bogie, suspension and buffers that he made. I will have to find his old parts catalogue lists. Did he mention about the TOPS era ICI hopper transfer pack at all. Many thanks Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, pharrc20 said: Excellent John that is great news on John Talbots castings I had wondered what had happened to them. I would certainly be interested in the bogie, suspension and buffers that he made. I will have to find his old parts catalogue lists. Did he mention about the TOPS era ICI hopper transfer pack at all. Many thanks Paul I didn't know that it existed - I'll mention transfers in my next communication with John. It could be very helpful in my task of sorting the castings if you could, at some time, let me have a scan of John's catalogue, please. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, cctransuk said: I didn't know that it existed - I'll mention transfers in my next communication with John. It could be very helpful in my task of sorting the castings if you could, at some time, let me have a scan of John's catalogue, please. Regards, John Isherwood. Yes John had a whole range of wagon transfers in 4mm covering ones for most of his kits and useful for other non-kit wagons too. Oh and a range of paints too. I might have a scan of his catalogue I can send yoh will check on hdd laptop shortly and PM you. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2020 If you've got WhatsApp I can send you a copy of the catalogues (plural!). I actually know where they are. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: If you've got WhatsApp I can send you a copy of the catalogues (plural!). I actually know where they are. Mike. I don't do WhatsApp, I'm afraid; but another offer has been made (above), thanks. Regards, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, pharrc20 said: Yes John had a whole range of wagon transfers in 4mm covering ones for most of his kits and useful for other non-kit wagons too. Oh and a range of paints too. I might have a scan of his catalogue I can send yoh will check on hdd laptop shortly and PM you. Cheers Paul I now have a 1999 parts, transfers and paints list; but I would welcome sight of a kits list, please. Regards, John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 11 hours ago, westie7 said: I spoke to John very recently when I ordered some transfers, we discussed this very subject. My particular interest was for any remaining FPA chassis, I'm still interested if they are amongst those that survive Regards Mark +1 for FPA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hi John Thanks for taking this on, I wish Mr Talbot well. I'd be very interested in ANY warflat / warwell parts e.g. gloucester gps bogies, end jacks or buffers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Thanks John for undertaking what appears to be fairly mammoth task. As everyone seems to gave a wishes for part, mine is the UIC suspension/axle box so I can get on and rebuild some Traffic Services tank wagons etc. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 25, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr T said: Thanks John for undertaking what appears to be fairly mammoth task. As everyone seems to gave a wishes for part, mine is the UIC suspension/axle box so I can get on and rebuild some Traffic Services tank wagons etc. Martin You'll be wanting the UIC ferry buffers too, presumably? Perfect for the BR prototype CCT, GUV, SR Ferry Vans (bogie and 4W); etc.; etc. Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted July 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I'm under starters orders! Mike. I'm meandering round the paddock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Graham108 Posted July 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2020 Quote Quote Does he still have detailing kits available? I can remember an article in Model Rail from 1998 about a Lima Class 60 internal engine kit - might be down for a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 25, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, bartram108 said: As stated above, I haven't the slightest idea what is included in the "three to four thousand" castings that are coming my way. Rest assured; when I have worked out what I have - which will not be for several months - this list will be the first to know. John Isherwood. 2 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2020 Thank you, John. You are putting a considerable amount of effort into this and have a life as well; I doubt that there will be anything of interest to me in the haul but you never know, and I will keep an eye out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Graham108 Posted July 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, cctransuk said: As stated above, I haven't the slightest idea what is included in the "three to four thousand" castings that are coming my way. Rest assured; when I have worked out what I have - which will not be for several months - this list will be the first to know. John Isherwood. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 hours ago, cctransuk said: As stated above, I haven't the slightest idea what is included in the "three to four thousand" castings that are coming my way. Rest assured; when I have worked out what I have - which will not be for several months - this list will be the first to know. John Isherwood. Thanks John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2020 15 hours ago, cctransuk said: As stated above, I haven't the slightest idea what is included in the "three to four thousand" castings that are coming my way. Rest assured; when I have worked out what I have - which will not be for several months - this list will be the first to know. John Isherwood. I have a feeling in my water that whatever there is won't be enough when the wolves are unleashed! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) I've been pondering how to make five FPA wagons for a while now. A chance of any of these and the caustic soda/china clay TUA would be very helpful. Edited July 26, 2020 by Flood 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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