Squirrel Rail Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Tonight I'm back on the 87s, I had started these as a blog but didn't realise I couldn't keep it in one thread - my mistake new to RM web Anyhow, my recent post in here on the 50 resprays went down fairly well so here are the 87s. The project is to renumber and rename 4 of the new Hornby 87s. These are to work push pull sets so are being dual identitied as they will only have one side on to the viewer so this explains more than 4 numbers. Here's 87011 with its new City of Wolverhampton plates. It has had roof weathering and fading and weathering to the bodysides so next up are the bogies and underframes. First few passes of frame dirt to start to build up some muck. I had forgotten when looking at pictures how dirty these actually got! Here's another this time Thane of Fife. Photo's showed this had quite a few scuffs out the Virgin stripes so these have been replicated and the frame dirt applied. Last up tonight is 87014. This had quite a lot of damage in the reference pics, a couple of lumps out of it's nose down to the primer and likewise two big areas under the nameplate. It was also absolutely minging and had lots of dirt over the bodysides:- Here's the ding on the front: and here's the nameplate area BTW I will clean that crap off the cab window!! That's all for tonight . Cheers Jerry 14 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 23 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said: Tonight I'm back on the 87s, I had started these as a blog but didn't realise I couldn't keep it in one thread - my mistake new to RM web Anyhow, my recent post in here on the 50 resprays went down fairly well so here are the 87s. The project is to renumber and rename 4 of the new Hornby 87s. These are to work push pull sets so are being dual identitied as they will only have one side on to the viewer so this explains more than 4 numbers. Here's 87011 with its new City of Wolverhampton plates. It has had roof weathering and fading and weathering to the bodysides so next up are the bogies and underframes. First few passes of frame dirt to start to build up some muck. I had forgotten when looking at pictures how dirty these actually got! Here's another this time Thane of Fife. Photo's showed this had quite a few scuffs out the Virgin stripes so these have been replicated and the frame dirt applied. Last up tonight is 87014. This had quite a lot of damage in the reference pics, a couple of lumps out of it's nose down to the primer and likewise two big areas under the nameplate. It was also absolutely minging and had lots of dirt over the bodysides:- Here's the ding on the front: and here's the nameplate area BTW I will clean that crap off the cab window!! That's all for tonight . Cheers Jerry 23 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said: Tonight I'm back on the 87s, I had started these as a blog but didn't realise I couldn't keep it in one thread - my mistake new to RM web Anyhow, my recent post in here on the 50 resprays went down fairly well so here are the 87s. The project is to renumber and rename 4 of the new Hornby 87s. These are to work push pull sets so are being dual identitied as they will only have one side on to the viewer so this explains more than 4 numbers. Here's 87011 with its new City of Wolverhampton plates. It has had roof weathering and fading and weathering to the bodysides so next up are the bogies and underframes. First few passes of frame dirt to start to build up some muck. I had forgotten when looking at pictures how dirty these actually got! Here's another this time Thane of Fife. Photo's showed this had quite a few scuffs out the Virgin stripes so these have been replicated and the frame dirt applied. Last up tonight is 87014. This had quite a lot of damage in the reference pics, a couple of lumps out of it's nose down to the primer and likewise two big areas under the nameplate. It was also absolutely minging and had lots of dirt over the bodysides:- Here's the ding on the front: and here's the nameplate area BTW I will clean that crap off the cab window!! That's all for tonight . Cheers Jerry On 06/07/2020 at 21:49, rob D2 said: Really nice looking job on those 23 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said: Back on the 87s tonight, last few bits of weathering and detailing and then I will leave them alone for a few days to see what I like and don't like:- Hers a few pics: General view of the roofs, all slightly different for a bit of variety The Hornby 87 is a really good looking loco and a bit of weathering really makes a difference Love the nameplate and crest, these were from Fox Thane of Fife with its tatty virgin stripes 014 with its ding in the front 87025 with its Virgin style plates, again from Fox 87004 has it's number higher than on the other locos and one of the few to keep a red plate and last up 005 So that's that for the time being. 23 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said: 23 hours ago, Squirrel Rail said: 10 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I think you’ve captured them well. i lived near Northampton in the early 2000s, so saw these a lot, before the dull pendolinos took over ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Latest additions to the workbench are a Kernow Thumper and Heljan railbus. The thumper is to lose its orange V and gain small yellow warning panels and then both of them are due for weathering: First job is to lose that V - here it is slowly disappearing.... With that out the way the masking was up next. I could have saved myself a lot of work as I removed all the pipework on one end of the set before remembering that the yellow panel sits inside it all - Doh!! Here it is masked up ready, maskol prevents any creep of overspray Tamiya white fine surface primer provides a good base for the yellow, although more expensive its much smoother than the pigment in the Halfords cans as its designed for modelling, Followed by Phoenix paints WP Yellow As soon as I've cleaned up the airbrush I take off the masking Not looking too bad - nice crisp lines although I have cocked up one of the corners as a bit of maskol has given me a radius on one side and not the other. Now is not the time to tinker but to let the paint harden off for a few days and resolve it then. The handrails will be painted into green and then weathering will start to tone down the fresh appearance and blend it all together. I will post some more pics when I get back on to it. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Not much to add to yesterday’s efforts apart from handrails repainted fro orange to green and the triangle added to the front 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John34 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hi, Nice to see you exhibiting your expertise Jerry, you should have done this years ago - if only you could have spared the time... Looking forward to the next instalment! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Back on the Thumper and the rail bus today. Waiting for a replacement horn on the thumper but can easily blend it in so decided to crack on. First up was a wash to tone down the acres of grey plastic with some localised washes to highlight detail. Small wash around the lamp irons to lift the detail and here's the two roofs Likewise the rail bus gets a similar treatment before heading to the paint stand Airbrush commences, roof dirt slightly darkened is applied with heavier build up around the thumper exhaust The mix is then darkened again and the process repeated. That's enough on those for the time being so leave them to dry and carry on another time 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Replacement horns arrived today from Roxey Mouldings, really pleased with them and great service As they are already drilled easy to find a suitable wire support and fit - debating if I should change both? I've given the replacement a quick coat of paint and will let it dry overnight before deciding whether to swap the other before carrying back on with the weathering! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Back on these two tonight. Bit of weathering to go over the replacement horn on the Thumper and then start to get the base weathering on the underframes on both of them. First up is the rail bus, trying to keep the sides fairly clean - I'm not convinced about Heljan's banana handrail ( it's the same on the other side Front of the bus will be cleaned back but not until the paint has had a time to dry On to the Thumper, roof first around the replacement horn and then some more weathering around the exhaust and fan. Underframes next and here's both sides, mix of frame dirt and brake dust and some shadowing with dirty black around the fuel tanks and axle boxes. Time to leave alone to harden off. Must sort those grills out - too clean!...and the other side. That's it for tonight. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 After a weekend of domestic refurbishment just managed to put the finishing touches to the thumper and the rail bus. First up adding brake dust to the bogies and a bit of grime... Followed by buffer grease and the rubbing plate, before... and much better after.... Bit more work on the roof and the side grills.... Pretty happy with all of that - wanted a very lightly weathered Thumper and think I've just about cracked it. As usual I will leave it a couple of days then have another look but for now that's it. Quick couple of 3/4 shots of the pair of them to close. Cheers Jerry Still don't like that bloody handrail 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Class 66 597 Viridor. Following on from the previous pair the green theme continues. This is a re work of 66952 into 597. The finished loco will be fairly heavily weathered but before all the fun there's quite a bit of prep. First to go are the numbers and the 40th anniversary logos. Quite a few other little jobs to do too, front valance and detail pack to fit, replace the missing brake gear off one bogie, the broken lamp bracket and one of the sandboxes that was on holiday in the box. The cab front handrails will get a deeper coat of yellow as the plastic looks just that - plastic. The yellow axle boxes and whitewall tyres also need to go..... Much better without the bling, have also picked out the hand rails above the cab steps in white which are always black on Bachmann 66's. Next step is to change the terracotta exhaust to a better base colour before the weathering. Bachmann have done a number of variations on the silencer and unfortunately they are all a bit, er, crap. Here it is masked out ready for some base colour As this is going to be pretty weathered I just want a coat of rusty (ish) steel, humbrol metal coat and rust mixed and brush painted - I have added some variations in the colours to get a bit of life into the base coat So here's the end of today's efforts - all ready for a numbering session and naming. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Little bit of progress on 66597 tonight with all the numbers now on. Bit of a nameplate conundrum regarding colours and also the handrail on the front of the loco should be white. Thank you Trevor for pointing me in the right direction; Here's the numbers, these are from the Replica Railways sheet spliced and diced to get the right combination. Not yet sealed in but gives the idea! Next up the name plates. ModelMaster supply them in blue an after much web searching I could only find Green or faded green until ... yep I finally found a blue pic. As this is to represent early on in its career green was the original colour so goodbye blue and a coat of freightliner green has gone on. Hopefully the finished plate will appear on my next post, Cheers Jerry 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 The refinished nameplates now look like this: So next up naming (without ceremony)... Last job for the day was repaint the handrails into white ready for weathering over the next few days 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs4 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Nice trick on the nameplates - look superb. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Quick 1/2 hour on shed 597 this morning. Starting with the cab fronts here's a before and after and the look I am going for: That's better:- rust streaks and grime around the lifting eyes and general muck build up Hopefully tonight begin the airbrush work? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Airbrush base on 66597 tonight. Underframes and roof to give the starting point for more detail work over the next few days. The weathering is based on photos of the original and it was actually this dirty! First up is a general shot of the underframe dirt on and fading and detail highlights on the roof. Remember the original exhaust from earlier in the thread?, well getting there now and that characteristic exhaust pattern down the side has come out just as I wanted it... To close off for the night a couple of pics from either side to get an overall idea of where its heading. Cheers Jerry 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 That looks really good ! the only other thing I’d do is ditch the Bachmann air pipes and replace them with another manufacturer - they’ve seriously over - ribbed them compared with real ones . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, rob D2 said: That looks really good ! the only other thing I’d do is ditch the Bachmann air pipes and replace them with another manufacturer - they’ve seriously over - ribbed them compared with real ones . Hi Rob, I agree with you on that one, they do look a bit like tumble dryer hose! However it’s for a friend who has quite a few so for consistency they all have the Bachmann hoses- now he’s seen the post I could end up with loads to change!! Cheers Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Whilst 66597 dries off for a bit next up is 47207. A mate (who shall remain nameless) bought this off e-bay and at first glance it doesn't look too bad... However the glazing has had it so the task was to replace the glazing and add buffer beams with detail at one end and match /improve the weathering. Apart from this the biggest bugbear to me was the colour of the lower body side- compared to a pristine shell it looked more duck egg blue (Hornby 60 anyone?!) it looks worse in the flesh.. The culprit on the colour change is varnish, not only is it thick but very patchy too:- Decided therefore its got to go, loco to be stripped of plates,glazing and handrails for body side respray - saying that the roof isn't exactly doing it for me either, at least all the etch is salvageable A rub down of the affected areas and I have masked out the RFD logos as I wanted to keep them and the doors and warning panels for a coat of BR grey and then the grey That can sit for a day or two - haven't taken the masks off as yet. Will need to source some numbers for it as they aren't a standard size. Railtec haven't got anything off the shelf so will have a hunt through the Fox RFD sheets. That's it for today. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nice trip today to stock up with supplies at Model Junction in Bury St Edmunds, good to see the chaps again and they said business has really picked up since they reopened in June. Tonight's efforts were getting the flint grey upper body sides on 47207. Here it is masked ready for paint and with the replacement grey The masking has taken a bit of the cant rail off but not bothered as on pics of 207 this was under the body side gutter and not the gutter itself as on the model so it has to go and I will repaint that after I sort the roof. All looks a bit lumpy on a 27" monitor and the light on my bench doesn't help as it makes everything look worse than it is but trust me (he says confidently) I know what I'm doing 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Bit more progress on 47207 tonight. The roof has had a coat of Executive Dark Grey and the cant rail will be sorted later on. Most of the work tonight has been refitting the nameplates, cab rails, BR arrows and the Tinsley plaques. Checked reference pics and it carried both styles so the originals were recycled. Earlier on in this thread I posted a pic of the body on top of a pristine Heljan duff shell - here is the revised paint job in comparison. Numbers have arrived from Fox so will get those over the next few days together with cant rails and OHLE flashes, data panels etc. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Had chance to get the numbers on 47207 tonight and the beloved cant rail. Really pleased with the numbers but not happy with the crackle finish cab roof, left over from previous owners paint job so should have flattened it off more Not a major problem more a niggle, likewise not overly happy with the black round the windows so may respray that too - funny how a little tidy up becomes almost a full respray! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Nice work on the recovery of that one Mr squirrel. RFd livery looks great when clean 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Nice work on the recovery of that one Mr squirrel. RFd livery looks great when clean Thanks Rob, it’s going to be weathered again so enjoy it while it’s clean! I think of all the liveries to paint RFD is one of the nicest to do, cheers Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Back on 47207 and 66597 tonight. The 47 is turning into a bit of a saga, the nose tops were black whereas they should be yellow so that was followed by the cab front handrails, yellow not silver, the aerial supports needed to be picked out in light blue, yellow axle box covers, front numbers and OHLE flashes. I think it is nearly ready for weathering. Couple of pics of the two.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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