The Night Mail

[Winslow Boy]

19 minutes ago, polybear said:

 

Not wise enough to realise that very large fruit cake he's got stashed in the cupboard is a plastic 3d print......🤣

 

I think he's sussed it as I can hear a rumble of hooves. Better batten down the hatches Mr B and activate the Hippo defences.

[Winslow Boy]

8 hours ago, Tony_S said:

I find the fact that someone has licensed the image of Einstein to publicise something to be a bit tacky. It isn’t really an homage to his intellect. 

 

It does rather insult your intelligence that somebody thought that by having Einstein endorse the product we would all rush out and buy something which is basically a waste of money. Just because it shows you burning your money won't necessary get people to do something about it.

[Oldddudders]

2 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

There is a rather long and sordid history in the 20th century of governments/governmental organisations using unwilling and/or unsuspecting individuals (prisoners of war, people being “ethnically cleansed“, individuals within the country’s prison system, their own servicemen, etc.)  as test subjects for research that varies from scientifically valid (but difficult, if not impossible to do ethically) to sadistically perverse.

Ronald Maddison comes to mind.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Maddison

[Happy Hippo]

4 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

What a wise Hippo you are!

Now is that:

 

Wise Intelligent Supreme Entity?

 

or

 

Wide Incredibly Smelly Event?

[Happy Hippo]

2 hours ago, polybear said:

 

Not wise enough to realise that very large fruit cake he's got stashed in the cupboard is a plastic 3d print......🤣

This beast is currently on a cake moratorium (well, a lessening of consumption).

 

At the end of the BRMC monthly meet at Llandrinio yesterday, I was offered 6 slices of carrot cake which were left over from the earlier bun fight.

 

Naturally I accepted, but when I got home, decided that an uncontrolled welter (or*y gets rejected by the site software) of cake consumption was not a really good idea, so I took them around to our neighbours, and tearfully handed them over.

 

I then took to my bicycle in order to work off my grief.

Edited June 15, 2022 by Happy Hippo

[Tony_S]

1 hour ago, Happy Hippo said:

 

I then took to my bicycle in order to work off my grief.

How far do you have to go to cancel out a slice of cake? One of the BiL’s spends a lot of time at the gym doing lots of energy intensive exercise and then comes home and eats huge (compared to most people I know) amounts of food. I asked if he could exercise less and then he wouldn’t need so much food but he said the food drives his exercise not the other way round. Also he would be sad.

[Happy Hippo]

8 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

How far do you have to go to cancel out a slice of cake? One of the BiL’s spends a lot of time at the gym doing lots of energy intensive exercise and then comes home and eats huge (compared to most people I know) amounts of food. I asked if he could exercise less and then he wouldn’t need so much food but he said the food drives his exercise not the other way round. Also he would be sad.

I only cycled 7.5 miles yesterday, as I've not been on the bike for some time and I need to build my rump back up into saddle fitness.

 

As far as weight loss is concerned, once I get up to over 10 miles a day (by the end of the week)  I can lose about 1lb per day regardless of what I eat.

 

I do tend to find that if I do enough exercise my appetite decreases slightly.

 

Yesterday's ride would have been the equivalent of  about one slice.

 

I've no scientific proof to back this up, but my son in law used to do a lot of gym type exercise and looks lean and sleek and can eat lots of proteins.  However, he has a very low stamina level compared to me.  This embarrasses him as I'm 20 odd year older than him.

 

I've told him there is no substitute for running/cycling/swimming for stamina building and he is now beginning to find the benefit of an interval training program I suggested he try.

 

[polybear]

3 hours ago, Happy Hippo said:

This beast is currently on a cake moratorium (well, a lessening of consumption).

 

At the end of the BRMC monthly meet at Llandrinio yesterday, I was offered 6 slices of carrot cake which were left over from the earlier bun fight.

 

Naturally I accepted, but when I got home, decided that an uncontrolled welter (or*y gets rejected by the site software) of cake consumption was not a really good idea, so I took them around to our neighbours, and tearfully handed them over.

 

I then took to my bicycle in order to work off my grief.

 

If there were any justice in the world such actions would be worthy of a medal - and a very large lump of cake.....

 

1 hour ago, Tony_S said:

How far do you have to go to cancel out a slice of cake? 

 

Early reports suggest a Hippo was last seen pedalling furiously thru' the centre of Ouagadougou......

[simontaylor484]

5 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

Ronald Maddison comes to mind.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Maddison

Why did I read that as Ronald McDonald 

[Northmoor]

1 hour ago, Happy Hippo said:

I only cycled 7.5 miles yesterday, as I've not been on the bike for some time and I need to build my rump back up into saddle fitness.

 

As far as weight loss is concerned, once I get up to over 10 miles a day (by the end of the week)  I can lose about 1lb per day regardless of what I eat.

 

I do tend to find that if I do enough exercise my appetite decreases slightly.

 

Yesterday's ride would have been the equivalent of  about one slice.

 

I've no scientific proof to back this up, but my son in law used to do a lot of gym type exercise and looks lean and sleek and can eat lots of proteins.  However, he has a very low stamina level compared to me.  This embarrasses him as I'm 20 odd year older than him.

 

I've told him there is no substitute for running/cycling/swimming for stamina building and he is now beginning to find the benefit of an interval training program I suggested he try.

 

Everything I've learned about diet and exercise is that the only way to lose weight is to eat less, especially of the "bad stuff" which I think includes LDC, unfortunately, even though lemon is a fruit so it's surely one of your 5-a-day?  Exercise builds stamina and fitness but is useless for weight loss, the human body has rubbish efficiency at converting fuel to energy. 

 

I agree that exercise decreases appetite slightly, but then it's quite hard to exercise and eat at the same time and it certainly makes both activities less enjoyable, but it seems to work mostly by distraction.  This is no doubt why sedentary lifestyles - loafing in front of the telly, mostly - are so bad for you because food is an excellent distraction from doing nothing; snack food of course has the highest fat/salt/sugar content.

 

I am of course a complete hypocrite, being ridiculously unfit (certainly compared to my youth), about two stone overweight and eat nowhere near enough of the right things.  However, I have seen enough friends and relatives who had healthy lifestyles die at the same or younger age than others who smoked heavily and/or ate rubbish their whole lives.  Cancer in particular, doesn't like to play by the rules of the "nutrition industry".

[rockershovel]

A propos Einstein's advertisements (which sound like a particularly obscure thought experiment) you'd like to think that people know that, he being long dead, any connection or approval is inferred?

[rockershovel]

Meanwhile, clubs and groups are starting up again ... but I do notice that I have a lot of diary clashes now, because so many seem to favour Mon and Tues?

[Tony_S]

53 minutes ago, rockershovel said:

A propos Einstein's advertisements (which sound like a particularly obscure thought experiment) you'd like to think that people know that, he being long dead, any connection or approval is inferred?

Lots of money involved though. 
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/may/17/who-owns-einstein-the-battle-for-the-worlds-most-famous-face

 

[J. S. Bach]

11 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

 ...snip... the Tuskegee syphilis study being just the tip of the iceberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study). ...snip...

That reminded me of a very different Tuskegee story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen

[iL Dottore]

14 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said:

That reminded me of a very different Tuskegee story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen

Brave lads. And not just in facing the Axis powers.

[iL Dottore]

3 hours ago, Northmoor said:

Everything I've learned about diet and exercise is that the only way to lose weight is to eat less, especially of the "bad stuff" which I think includes LDC, unfortunately, even though lemon is a fruit so it's surely one of your 5-a-day?  Exercise builds stamina and fitness but is useless for weight loss, the human body has rubbish efficiency at converting fuel to energy. 

 

I agree that exercise decreases appetite slightly, but then it's quite hard to exercise and eat at the same time and it certainly makes both activities less enjoyable, but it seems to work mostly by distraction.  This is no doubt why sedentary lifestyles - loafing in front of the telly, mostly - are so bad for you because food is an excellent distraction from doing nothing; snack food of course has the highest fat/salt/sugar content.

One things that has emerged from recent research is that neither exercise alone or diet alone are sufficient for long-term weight loss  (and maintenance thereof). The combination is very much a case of "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts". Successful long term weight loss requires a lifestyle change.

 

Fat gets a bad rap. A higher fat diet is not necessarily bad. If you have a moderate amount of fat in your diet (and I don't mean eating lard by the spoonful) you will actually begin to eat less as fat satiates the appetite in a way carbs can't. A 100g of slow roast pork belly will fill you up and keep you satiated, 100gm of cooked pasta less so.

 

The really bad member of the trilogy of  the three key food components (Protein, Carbohydrate, Fat) is carbohydrate. Not so much complex carbohydrates (as you would find in fresh veg), but processed carbohydrates such as High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS: cheap and produced through a complex industrial process see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup#Process). Most, if not all, processed food (ready meals, coop LDC, big chain fast-food) contains HFCS, such foods also contain high levels of salt - also not very good for you (high levels, that is). One of the big problems is that the levels of sugar and salt is not really noticeable, unless you haven't eaten a particular item for a while. An example: one of my treats when I was Grad student in the US was a Hardee's Sausage and Egg Breakfast Biscuit (like a savoury scone). Fast forward 20 years and on a business trip to the US I decided to forego the hotel breakfast and have a Hardee's Breakfast Biscuit - it was almost inedible given how salty I found it.

 

Paradoxically, the significant rise of obesity in the Western World can be traced back to the 60s when the nutritionists of the time demonised fat - causing food manufacturers to resort to using high quantities of sugar and salt to keep processed food palatable (the research was later shown to be flawed).

 

Of course, we should all be aware that an optimal weight is necessary for a healthy life - some people, however, tend to willfully ignore the scientific, biological and medical evidence and celebrate obesity. Should you point out that being obese is not a good place to be health-wise you'll be viciously attacked as being "fat-phobic"  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/10/fat-pride-obesity-public-health-warnings-dangerous-weight-levels

[SM42]

First fit electrics and first fitting central heating today.

 

No windows yet. ☹️

 

Andy

Who's started to melt

[pH]

I knew two guys who were distance runners, one for a university athletics team, the other representing one of the UK countries. They trained together - they also drank together … and separately. They measured the intensity of their training in figures of “miles per pint”.

[New Haven Neil]

A package arrived today containing a selection of pin vices, allowing some small progress on a very small 7mm scale loco I'm building, Baz will be pleased to know!  It has been stalled for some time (why does that always happen?) but drilling a tiny hole in an awkward place that I have been putting off was completed due to the pin vice holding the drill.  The chassis has not quite gone together how the designer wished, but there may be an alteration in that regard if this work-around doesn't work!

 

Gardening in the heat of the day was a pleasant change, but energy levels are still very low - if I had had covid I'd say I have long covid, but as I haven't, it must just be lack of sleep due to the various broken hips and feet.

[simontaylor484]

1 hour ago, SM42 said:

First fit electrics and first fitting central heating today.

 

No windows yet. ☹️

 

Andy

Who's started to melt

You could always open a window 

[SM42]

7 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said:

You could always open a window 

 

If I had one, I would. 

 

Andy

[J. S. Bach]

Leave the door open?

[SM42]

2 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said:

Leave the door open?

 

Still waiting for that too

 

Andy

[Dave Hunt]

Re the Tuskegee 'Red Tails', a USAF friend's father was a B17 pilot who said that whenever their escort turned out to be a bunch of red tailed P51s his whole crew would cheer, such was their reputation as air warriors.

 

Dave

[Dave Hunt]

3 hours ago, pH said:

I knew two guys who were distance runners, one for a university athletics team, the other representing one of the UK countries. They trained together - they also drank together … and separately. They measured the intensity of their training in figures of “miles per pint”.

 

A colleague of mine announced in the crew room one day when a bunch of fitness fanatics were comparing notes on how hard they trained and sweated that he was starting 'Jockstraps Anonymous'. The idea was that if you ever felt like committing exercise he would come over and drink with you until the feeling wore off.

 

Dave