AndyID Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: What did Nelson signal to the fleet? I don't suppose it was "I see no ships". 😄 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago BTW, the first substantial memorials to Nelson were created in Scotland 😂 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted 14 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, AndyID said: I don't suppose it was "I see no ships". 😄 Depends on which eye he used! 🙄 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: You need Popham's 'Telegraphic Signals of Marine Vocabulary', or so Wikipedia tells me. What's the date today? I'll give you another clue - the father of the LNWR's chairman of 1852-1861 was one of the intended recipients. Fair enough and understood. My copy if the ICS is the current version (I found it, hiding in between my histories of the USCG and Trinity House, and my copy of Escoffier - my library is currently a mess). The Wikipedia page on Popham and link to "England Expects" shows the use of twin-flag, single-letter code. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted 14 hours ago Author RMweb Gold Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dave Hunt said: Get thee behind me Satan!! Dave I see, a promotion in the field. Most people only describe me as a little devil. When do you want to borrow the book? 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BSW01 Posted 14 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 14 hours ago Nelson’s flag message was:- England expects that every man will do his duty 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: Most people only describe me as a little devil. Other words were expressed. Anyway, my "unattached utility building" is in serious need of a major tidy-up and there is a 33 foot long baseboard (potentially extendable) not doing a lot so feel free to "pop-in" anytime if you have any creative ideas. 8 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 12 minutes ago, BSW01 said: Nelson’s flag message was:- England expects that every man will do his duty If memory serves (and it is failing), the signals were condemned at the time as grammatically strange. Flag-code under ICS is "supposed to be" groups of three but you can go to more if the string's long enough. I once called out a seven-flag code for my client (using the repeats). I was once told that Nelson's signal was a seven-flag job something like "England/Rquires/Evryman/Hisduty" and was also condemned for being en claire, not code. They had "leet", even then... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 19 minutes ago, BSW01 said: Nelson’s flag message was:- England expects that every man will do his duty He should have said "Britain...." rather than England. Large numbers of the crew were Welsh, Scottish and Irish. 5 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Northmoor Posted 13 hours ago RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, br2975 said: "Remember, it's the green bins every other Tuesday". 1 2 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BSW01 Posted 13 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) The flags are read vertically, in columns, from left to right, except the last 4 columns, which are single letters. Like so England Expects That Every Man Will Do His D U T Y Edited 13 hours ago by BSW01 5 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted 13 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Northmoor said: "Remember, it's the green bins every other Tuesday". BRILLIANT! How did you know that tomorrow is green bin day at Hunt Towers? I've just been putting them out. Dave 1 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted 13 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, BSW01 said: The flags are read vertically, in columns, from left to right, except the last 4 columns, which are single letters. Like so England Expects That Every Man Will Do His D U T Y Thank God we had radios is all I can say. Dave 4 6 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago So it wasn't- henceforth I wish to be known as Doris, then? 1 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: So it wasn't- henceforth I wish to be known as Doris, then? What's wrong with Doris? Alternative names are available. Returning to the nautical aspect it's simply a question of "whatever happens to float your boat" 😄 Edited 13 hours ago by AndyID 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said: Thank God we had radios is all I can say. Dave Hard to fly flags at Mach 1, then? 1 3 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, AndyID said: He should have said "Britain...." rather than England. Large numbers of the crew were Welsh, Scottish and Irish. Apparently many more nationalities than that: https://www.tumblr.com/ltwilliammowett/624555296803733504/the-crew-of-hms-victory (Though that article doesn’t give primary sources.) 4 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Dave Hunt said: ??? Dave 2 hours ago, Chris Snowdon said: Sorry, this defeats me. Memory fails. Can't find my copy of ICS, so used an old ALRS Vol 5. So, "MV". . England expects every man will do his duty . Nelson's penultimate signal . 21st. October, 1805 . His final signal read . "Engage the enemy more closely" Edited 12 hours ago by br2975 2 4 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, br2975 said: . England expects every man will do his duty . Nelson's penultimate signal . 21st. October, 1805 . His final signal read . "Engage the enemy more closely" The flag-code is still meaningless to me when I don't properly know the two or stree [three] standard codes using the same (and not so similar) codes but similar flags. Was taught EEMC as well, but with some concerns about whether he commanded the signal, or it was just a shout. Ignoring the irony of it (it's how and why he was shot) I held that as a mantra for much longer than I should have done. Even when presented as vertical three-flag standards, it's still not obvious to be, but so I fail. Edited 12 hours ago by Chris Snowdon Correcting to actual English. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dave Hunt said: BRILLIANT! How did you know that tomorrow is green bin day at Hunt Towers? I've just been putting them out. Dave We don't have green bins here. We just have "bin day". That involves coloured bags, rather than coloured bins. I have a 330l compost bin and I do my best. I tried putting the garden waste, tea-bags and coffee-grounds into the compost bin, and the empty wine bottles into the special bag, and using the by-product of latter upon former. Didn't really work as well as I hoped it would. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted 10 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, br2975 said: . England expects every man will do his duty . Nelson's penultimate signal . 21st. October, 1805 . His final signal read . "Engage the enemy more closely" I prefer his: "Get so close you cant miss" Even if that was not his. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted 10 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 10 hours ago Night owl from the Piedmont. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enz Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, AndyID said: He should have said "Britain...." rather than England. Large numbers of the crew were Welsh, Scottish and Irish. Nelson may have got it right with "England" - how many at home in Ireland, for example, might have quite liked it if the RN hadn't won? OK, the crews probably would have preferred if their particular ship wasn't sunk, but to throw off the English overlords... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Not your basic Nissan Qashqai Spotted at the Nissan Flagship Store in the Ginza: The Nissan Hyper Punk all electric hybrid crossover. I couldn't find a price 😢🙁 Finally, as I leave Japan, here's an endearing little thing spotted at the Sony Flagship Store in the Ginza: 日本からさよならを言います 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted 7 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, Dave Hunt said: BRILLIANT! How did you know that tomorrow is green bin day at Hunt Towers? I've just been putting them out. Dave Mrs H flies the flags from the Chimney Stack..... 5 hours ago, br2975 said: . England expects every man will do his duty . Nelson's penultimate signal . 21st. October, 1805 . His final signal read . "Engage the enemy more closely" And his final, final signal read: "Rattin' Piggin' Turdycurses" 4 hours ago, Chris Snowdon said: We don't have green bins here. We just have "bin day". That involves coloured bags, rather than coloured bins. I have a 330l compost bin and I do my best. I tried putting the garden waste, tea-bags and coffee-grounds into the compost bin, and the empty wine bottles into the special bag, and using the by-product of latter upon former. Didn't really work as well as I hoped it would. That must be fun when the green waste came from a Pyracanthus. 1 hour ago, iL Dottore said: Not your basic Nissan Qashqai Spotted at the Nissan Flagship Store in the Ginza: The Nissan Hyper Punk all electric hybrid crossover. I couldn't find a price 😢🙁 If you have to ask then.... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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