RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted yesterday at 07:55 RMweb Gold Share Posted yesterday at 07:55 14 hours ago, Dave Hunt said: But I also blotted my copybook with my fellow Midland modellers at Mark when I also let some of my lesser motive power pull the breakdown train. Like this little Peckett And my little Andrew Barclay But when the Brush diesel appeared, tongues really started to wag. Will my position in the Midland Railway Society survive? Dave Excellent motive power for a small, rural industrial, side project cameo layout...........which is about all I could manage in my available space. Think 1/35th military diorama approach meets 7mm railway modelling......... Rob 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted yesterday at 09:12 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted yesterday at 09:12 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: Excellent motive power for a small, rural industrial, side project cameo layout...........which is about all I could manage in my available space. Think 1/35th military diorama approach meets 7mm railway modelling......... Rob The illustrious DH does have enough space for such a 7 mm sideshow if he were to finally finish up his workshop declutter😄. It would look very good in the full blown Iain Rice cameo style theatre presentation. I have the book if Dave feels the urge! 6 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted yesterday at 09:24 Share Posted yesterday at 09:24 10 hours ago, br2975 said: Friday, 21st. October, 1966 and Mum sitting by the phone, in case any of her cousins' families were affected. We were lucky. 1 1 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted yesterday at 10:35 Share Posted yesterday at 10:35 2 hours ago, GMKAT7 said: Good morning br2975, The Boss and I have recently started watching The Crown, and on Friday night came to the episode in series three about the Aberfan disaster. IMO it was a superb episode in it's sensitive handling of the disaster and the Royal Family members reaction to it. British Television at its best. Given I was only seven at the time I have little memory of it. Cheers, Nigel. . I was ten, in Standard 4, when our teacher, Mr. Harry sat us all down and told us what was taking place about 18 miles north of our school. . I doubt we took it all in at that time, but did later. . What "The Crown" didn't cover was the disgraceful political actions that followed, where the government of the day in the form of Harold Wilson and George Thomas (Viscount Tonypandy) oversee the 'pillaging' of the disaster fund (public donations) of hundreds of thousands of pounds in order to fund the removal of the waste tips, allegedly at the behest of Lord Rovbens, Chair of the NCB. . It took thirty years until Ron Davies, Secretary of State for Wales saw the £150,000 repaid, and a further ten years until the government repaid some £2million, the lost interest. 1 4 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Popular Post Oldddudders Posted yesterday at 11:09 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 11:09 My takeaway from that dreadful day is Cliff Michelmore, seldom an on-the-spot reporter, but the best big gun the BBC could dig up, being virtually overwhelmed by emotion, on camera, as he stood on-site that evening. He had been a Squadron Leader in WW2, so had seen some horrid things then, no doubt, but this was off any known scale for most of us. He and wife Jean Metcalfe lived locally to me, in Reigate, and I had caddied for him a few times at Betchworth Park golf club. 9 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted 21 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) For some strange reason the BBC decided to transmit today a "Garden Rescue", from a new build house on an old coal tip in Aberfan.. No mention of the events though. Edited 21 hours ago by TheQ 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted 20 hours ago RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted 20 hours ago Yes I remember Aberfan very well. I was 13 at the time and the next day the Times had a huge frontbpage spread picture of the devastation. I got into trouble from my E glish teacher, who was also my housemaster, for showing the picture to the boy sitting next to me. This morning I announced in our French lesson that it was Trafalger day. Our teachers face was a picture. Jamie 8 12 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted 20 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheQ said: For some strange reason the BBC decided to transmit today a "Garden Rescue", from a new build house on an old coal tip in Aberfan.. No mention of the events though. Now is it just Bear, or does anyone else find the idea of building new houses on an old coal tip worrying? 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted 19 hours ago RMweb Gold Share Posted 19 hours ago 11 minutes ago, polybear said: Now is it just Bear, or does anyone else find the idea of building new houses on an old coal tip worrying? It’s not uncommon though @polybear. The site of the former Prince of Wales colliery at Pontefract in West Yorkshire is now an estate of some 400+ houses. 2 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted 19 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 19 hours ago 16 minutes ago, polybear said: Now is it just Bear, or does anyone else find the idea of building new houses on an old coal tip worrying? My daughter and granddaughter live on the former Allerton Bywater pit site. The capped shafts are in the park where young Emily plays. I suspect that the houses in Aberfan are on a former colliery site rather than a former tip. Probably first class journalism. My memory of the former pit stack site at Aberfan is that it was on a rather steep hillside. Jamie 1 4 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 12 hours ago, pH said: I think you may have been having your young leg pulled, That's not to say those big tanks couldn't move - I've been behind both Fairburn and Standard varieties doing more than 80mph. But I don't think crews would complain about engines going too fast when the remedy was in their own hands. (P.S. the station master at St. James in 1965 was Mr. Farish.) IIRC what he said was they could easily cover the distance in less than the time allocated for the journey. He definitely seemed to like those engines. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SM42 Posted 19 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, jamie92208 said: This morning I announced in our French lesson that it was Trafalger day. Our teachers face was a picture. Jamie Don't forget the French also celebrate it as the day they killed Nelson Andy Edited 19 hours ago by SM42 3 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 28 minutes ago, jamie92208 said: My memory of the former pit stack site at Aberfan is that it was on a rather steep hillside. I hitched down that valley in 1968. The main road was on the east side of the valley then - there’s now a newer road on the west side, the side where the slide happened. Looking across at the huge black scar on the opposite hillside was chilling. 2 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted 18 hours ago Author RMweb Gold Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, pH said: I hitched down that valley in 1968. The main road was on the east side of the valley then - there’s now a newer road on the west side, the side where the slide happened. Looking across at the huge black scar on the opposite hillside was chilling. The newer road is the A470 (Cardiff to Llandudno) and was partially built along the route of the old joint GWR/Rhymney Railway line from Quakers Yard (HL) to Merthyr which closed in the 1950's. The Glamorganshire canal also ran alongside the GW/RR route through Aberfan The old road on the east side which used to be the A470, is now A4054. Edited 18 hours ago by Happy Hippo 3 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Western Larch 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanged Wheel Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, SM42 said: Don't forget the French also celebrate it as the day they killed Nelson Andy This is true. I once worked in a multi-national coalition. Every country had their own safe for nationally classified material. One day I was passing and noticed that one of my French colleagues was struggling to open their safe. I made the helpful suggestion that “I think you’ll find that the combination is 21-10-05”. Without a pause, he came right back with “Mais oui, the battle of the dead admiral”…! I’ve been to a number of Trafalgar Night dinners with French guests and they have always been excellent fun. To be honest, I always found the Marine Nationale were exceptionally good to work with. The second best Admiral that I ever worked for was French. The best one was American… 11 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted 17 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 17 hours ago 10 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: The illustrious DH does have enough space for such a 7 mm sideshow if he were to finally finish up his workshop declutter😄. It would look very good in the full blown Iain Rice cameo style theatre presentation. I have the book if Dave feels the urge! Get thee behind me Satan!! You know how weak willed I am when it comes to modelling. Jamie has already got me into French metre gauge and I need to live to 125 in order to finish everything I'm already doing. But it does sound tempting.... Oh bu66er... Dave 4 2 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 59 minutes ago, AndyID said: Western Larch . . 1 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 9 hours ago, br2975 said: Sorry, this defeats me. Memory fails. Can't find my copy of ICS, so used an old ALRS Vol 5. So, "MV". 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Snowdon Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, polybear said: Now is it just Bear, or does anyone else find the idea of building new houses on an old coal tip worrying? More than "worrying". Something called the Coal Authority still exists (or did until recently) to maintain records of abandoned mines going way-back, because of concerns about housing built on unstable ground. 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted 16 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 16 hours ago 9 hours ago, br2975 said: ??? Dave 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted 16 hours ago RMweb Premium Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, Chris Snowdon said: Sorry, this defeats me. Memory fails. Can't find my copy of ICS, so used an old ALRS Vol 5. So, "MV". You need Popham's 'Telegraphic Signals of Marine Vocabulary', or so Wikipedia tells me. What's the date today? I'll give you another clue - the father of the LNWR's chairman of 1852-1861 was one of the intended recipients. Edited 16 hours ago by Compound2632 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted 16 hours ago Author RMweb Gold Share Posted 16 hours ago What did Nelson signal to the fleet? 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, jamie92208 said: My daughter and granddaughter live on the former Allerton Bywater pit site. The capped shafts are in the park where young Emily plays. I suspect that the houses in Aberfan are on a former colliery site rather than a former tip. Probably first class journalism. My memory of the former pit stack site at Aberfan is that it was on a rather steep hillside. Jamie We bought a new construction house In Prestwick near the original runway. When they started to build the house next to us they drove a lot of metal pilings in to support it. Turns out there were old mine workings in that area but the well known UK building company assured me that our property was not at risk. I believed them until the concrete lintel at our bedroom window broke in two. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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