The Night Mail

[pH]

3 hours ago, GMKAT7 said:

My parents house was the start of a close, branching off the main access road. However, it was a semi-detached and the house next door was numbered as part of the main road.

I know of an estate where that is common. The houses are semi-detached. Those at crossroads in the estate are at 45 degrees to each road, with one half numbered in each road.

 

A friend grew up in a house with two addresses. It was a tenement on a corner, with a numbered door into the close (Scottish - common staircase) from each street. 

[jamie92208]

There was a terrace of back to backs in Gildersome called Birch field terrace. At some point it was renumbered into the main sequence for Street Lane, that it runs alo g. So the IIRC18 Pairs of back to backs got the next 36 even numbers.  With the street side going 50, 54, 58, 62 etc and the ones at the back going, 52, 56, 60, 64 etc.  Then people started buying the houses behind theirs and knocking them through. so 50 and 52  became 50 or 52 depending on the whim of the new owner.  However notbalthe pairs were converted and about four of them remained back to backs. The number g was made even more confusing as the street sign for Birch field Terrace is still fixed to the frontage. 

 

There will be a short quiz later. 

 

Jamie

[figworthy]

I know of one village where the houses were numbered in chronological order.  That probably seemed like a good idea at the time, when houses appeared randomly.  At some point in time, they got renumbered in a more conventional manner.  I don't know how long it took for things to settle down, it must have been "fun" for the postie.

 

Adrian

[New Haven Neil]

Even ing.  

 

Mixed weather in Keswick, but still enjoyed the day - these £2 bus rides are the thing.

 

I'm not even going to try to describe the numbering where we live, it is totally bonkers like may previously described, but the best bit is that the Post Office actually assign the numbers on Fraggle Rock.  For whom I worked at the time.  As we were also the first to move in, we named our house, and I informed the relevant person of that - he took note agreed the name and completed the remaining numbering while I was there having a chat (not his idea to do it the daft way it is, but was told....etc).  Sooooo, when the address database companies made their updates, they noticed one number was missing, there was just a name.  So they decided to give it a number.....so forever now when looking up our address on websites etc that use those databases (they all crib off one another) for postcodes, our house is....not where it should be!

[Winslow Boy]

11 hours ago, Happy Hippo said:

A lucky escape, the kind chap was obviously not a Telf.

 

The locals would have circled the mechanical horse and wagon, and emulated the cliche of irate native American attack on a settlers wagon train. 

Probably a missionary doing out reach work in the dark heart of the continent - Manutopea excluded.

[J. S. Bach]

3 hours ago, DaveF said:

I...snip...

David

I have one of those although in a slightly different color scheme mainly as it reminded me of a 1929 Brill "Bullet" that the Philadelphia & Western ran and SEPTA kept them in service until sometime in the 1980s:

I had a chance to operate one on the last (for the evening) inbound trip from Norristown. Nothing like sailing through Stafford Junction with the it on the post.

 

 

 

[Northmoor]

11 hours ago, Tony_S said:

My father was very impressed by the people of Telford. He and Mum were travelling back from a holiday somewhere in Shropshire when part of the suspension broke on their trailer tent. They parked up in an industrial estate in Telford and at first light Dad removed the broken part and started off looking for somewhere to weld it. A man stopped and asked if Dad needed help and someday asked him if he knew where he could get his part welded. The chap said “hop in” and took him to his specialist welding business and fixed it, no charge, glad to help etc. 

Sounds like he was trying to earn early release for good behaviour.

[polybear]

1 hour ago, New Haven Neil said:

Even ing.  

 

Mixed weather in Keswick, but still enjoyed the day - these £2 bus rides are the thing.

 

I'm not even going to try to describe the numbering where we live, it is totally bonkers like may previously described, but the best bit is that the Post Office actually assign the numbers on Fraggle Rock.  For whom I worked at the time.  As we were also the first to move in, we named our house, and I informed the relevant person of that - he took note agreed the name and completed the remaining numbering while I was there having a chat (not his idea to do it the daft way it is, but was told....etc).  Sooooo, when the address database companies made their updates, they noticed one number was missing, there was just a name.  So they decided to give it a number.....so forever now when looking up our address on websites etc that use those databases (they all crib off one another) for postcodes, our house is....not where it should be!

Could that affect Emergency Services looking for your house?

[Canal Digger]

10 hours ago, GMKAT7 said:

Good morning folks,

 

Our bungalow also sits on a road where the house numbers don't match across from each other.

We are 28, the bungalow opposite is 43.

 

There is no 13 in the odd numbered side, but to be that far out is down to the opposite side being on the outside of a curve. Thus, more plots have been squeezed in.

Plus, the houses and bungalows are all different, which probably relates to separate plots and builders as SM42 said.

 

At least all the even numbers are on the same side!

Which must prove that sheep (as in Derbyshire) can read 😂

A few years ago we went to see some relatives in Oklahoma, they lived in number 1032 (or similar, certainly 4 digits)  XYZ Street (sorry now forget that detail), found said street/ road, tried for 20-30 min to find the house we were looking for as the numbers jumped by several hundred, at the end of what we call a cul-de-sac*. Having asked several locals, we had to go back to the freeway, cross over an intersection, the take the next turning left into the other half of the estate.

 

*what is the name for such a dead-end rod in the US?

[J. S. Bach]

I have always called it/them a cul-de-sac. In fact I live at the end of one.

[J. S. Bach]

Night Owl from my cul-de-sac in the Piedmont.

[Winslow Boy]

My house is one of eight that were built just after the war, in actual fact they were the first new homes built in our part of Manutopea after the conflict. It wasn't called Manutopea then, that came much later.

 

Anyway prior to being built upon the land was a small holding/ market garden with a farm house. There are still several residents who can recall it being open land.

 

My mother used to have a school friend who lived in the neighbourhood and she can recall visiting her and play on the land.

 

I have looked up the area on old maps and the entire area was occupied by large houses until the turn of the nineteen hundreds. It then began to be sold off piece by piece and built on. After the first world war this accelated until this was the only patch of land left.

 

When some work was being done on the bungalow, where the farm house was they unearthed what appeared to be a kiln and builder unearthed a photo showing the building.

 

The strange thing was that when the road was originally put in it stopped at the farmhouse and then restarted approximately 500 yards further on. This meant that when the eight houses were built they just added them onto the odd numbers.

 

I do find looking at old maps very interesting especially given the age of the city which is older than Manchester.

[AndyID]

2 hours ago, Canal Digger said:

A few years ago we went to see some relatives in Oklahoma

 

 

A wee bit like Telford

[iL Dottore]

2 hours ago, AndyID said:

 

A wee bit like Telford

But with guns and tornadoes….

[jamie92208]

8 hours ago, Canal Digger said:

A few years ago we went to see some relatives in Oklahoma, they lived in number 1032 (or similar, certainly 4 digits)  XYZ Street (sorry now forget that detail), found said street/ road, tried for 20-30 min to find the house we were looking for as the numbers jumped by several hundred, at the end of what we call a cul-de-sac*. Having asked several locals, we had to go back to the freeway, cross over an intersection, the take the next turning left into the other half of the estate.

 

*what is the name for such a dead-end rod in the US?

 

7 hours ago, J. S. Bach said:

I have always called it/them a cul-de-sac. In fact I live at the end of one.

Cul de sac actually means 'the bottom of a bag'  and is a French phrase.  The French call them an Impasse. 

 

Jamie

[pH]

With 22 engines included, is this still a “light” engine move?
 

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/860675/

[iL Dottore]

1 hour ago, pH said:

With 22 engines included, is this still a “light” engine move?
 

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/860675/

Won’t that depend upon how you define “running light” If you define it to mean “not hauling any loco-hauled stock [carriages/wagons]”, then I guess they are “running light”.

 

Incidentally, any idea how many of those locos would be under power? The caption refers to a “power move”

Edited Sunday at 06:32 by iL Dottore

[Hroth]

9 hours ago, J. S. Bach said:

Night Owl from my cul-de-sac in the Piedmont.

 

Sounds like a sleeping bag with legs!

 

[pH]

1 hour ago, iL Dottore said:

Incidentally, any idea how many of those locos would be under power? The caption refers to a “power move”

“Power move” means moving power i.e. locomotives only - no train. These moves are done to balance power needed to work trains in opposite directions over a route. (Power can also be balanced by adding locomotives to individual trains going in one direction, beyond what is actually needed to move that particular train.)

 

There’s a figure called “horsepower per ton” to decide how much horsepower (how many locomotives of a given horsepower each) are needed to take a given weight of train over the route it is to travel. Different types of train have different “horsepower per ton” figures. I don’t know what HPT would be for a power move like this, but knowing that, and the weight of each loco, and the horsepower of each loco, you could work out how many locos would have to be under power.

 

There are members on here who could probably quote HPTs for a train like this on particular railroads and/or routes and do the above calculation.

[Winslow Boy]

6 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

But with guns and tornadoes….

Don't forget the soiree with the fringe on top.

[rockershovel]

13 hours ago, Northmoor said:

Sounds like he was trying to earn early release for good behaviour.

I was waiting for the punchline to be that he returned to find that he now held the only remaining wheell

[rockershovel]

12 hours ago, Canal Digger said:

 

 

*what is the name for such a dead-end rod in the US?

Detroit

[rockershovel]

The main road I live on is increasingly blighted by "developers" who buy one of the 1930s houses in the section mainly consisting of large detached houses with gardens, divert the services from the originsl house and cram two further detached houses, all but touching on the same plot. 

 

The original house remains, falling into disrepair because its services no longer function. 

 

Because the two new houses have no separate plots (mostly they just-about have parking spaces for two large Mercedes saloons or four small ones) they continue with the original number or are just un-numbered. 

 

How these properties fare for council tax, I have no idea. Local estate agents won't handle them because they may well have no planning permission. Most are rented out with the utilities bills going to the original address 

[rockershovel]

7 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

But with guns and tornadoes….

That would be Mildenhall, or possibly Lakenheath?

[Tony_S]

We live in a cul-de-sac. Quite often round here such roads include the name “close”. On estate type developments , Close for cul de sac  and “Way” for open ended routes are common. Ours isn’t a Close, for some reason ours is a “Grove”. Odd because there are very few trees visible from the road.