Winslow Boy Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, iL Dottore said: Not a list, Dave, not a list…. …. volumes…. We're going to need a longer wall to paraphrase a well known quote. 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 The Germans had the crucial problem that what they were doing had to work, failure was not an option, and they also had the benefit of the thorough reconstruction of their social structure conducted between 1919 and 1939. They also had social reforms in housing and education going back to the 1860s which Britain hadn't really begin. Britain had the fundamental problem that virtually the only thing which had survived - their political structure and banking system - was of least use to them. 5 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 I believe that when Marx composed his manifesto for change he thought that it would occur in Germany or England not Russia as it hadn't progressed sufficiently. 4 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 With regard to Infrastructure, many organisations in the UK, now work on a maxim of minimal maintenance. The logic is if it doesn’t fail whilst I’m in charge, that is fine. If it fails, yes I have to sort it, but the funds will come from the contingency budget! As for Parliament, nowadays it seems to be fully of solicitors. Could this be part of the problem? Paul 5 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 There I'm afraid to many politicians who come from a background where talking was how they made there 'money' - I used that word in the broadest possible sense. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Dave Hunt said: I didn’t even know that tortoises could stamp. I’ve only ever seen them sort of shuffle along. Dave That's an interesting comment coming from a crab. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 Here we are Dave..... 5 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 33 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: There I'm afraid to many politicians who come from a background where talking was how they made there 'money' - I used that word in the broadest possible sense. Their money comes because they are Solicitors without briefs.... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 That's a tart remark. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 5 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: I always recall someone, can't remember who, observing that the world had moved from making the fundamental breakthroughs/Discovery's into a period where we were now putting those Discovery's to use. It is now much the same with politics. When I was growing up it was much easier to identify things/reasons that politicians wanted to change. For example the standard of housing or the large percentage of the population who were desperately poor. Nowadays whilst both those examples still exist they are no where near the same levels as when i was young. Therefore politicians have to work harder in order to justify there political stance. One way to do that of course is to pass legislation. Whether that legislation is needed or achieves it's objective is more mute. Much legislation nowadays seems to be poorly crafted. Is that the fault of the politician? Could be but I would also say that bureaucracy that helps draft it must take some of the blame. There have been numerous examples cited of the way businesses have taken advantage of this bureaucracy to its benefit. Yet it is also possible to cite examples of legislation that has reigned in businesses and stopped it abusing workers. In the end it all boils down to the quality of the people involved wherever they are and unfortunately at this time we seem to be working through a extremely poor selection. When I started developing the Police National Legal Database there were some 2000 charge heading gs. 7 years later there were over 5000. Most politicians seem to be addicted to passing new legislation rather than using quite adequate existing laws. It shows that they are doing something. 2 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said: As for Parliament, nowadays it seems to be fully of solicitors. Could this be part of the problem? Paul I remember hearing in the 90's that there were approx 450 legally qualified MP's out if 600 odd. These included Maggie. Jamie 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted June 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 6 hours ago, DenysW said: Small village on the Trent, just north of Newark? Not especially picturesque, but well served by the A1. Just checking. Its also got a lock on the Trent, which is tidal below it. You need to time your passage carefully if you want to lock up onto the Fossdyke at Torksey on the same tide! 2 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said: As for Parliament, nowadays it seems to be fully of solicitors. Could this be part of the problem? Paul 2 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: There I'm afraid to many politicians who come from a background where talking was how they made there 'money' - I used that word in the broadest possible sense. "First thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers". Shakespeare, Henry VI pt2. For some reason lawyers dislike that quote with a passion, but perhaps having been a lawyer, solicitor or barrister, should be a bar against sitting as an MP... 1 4 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 hours ago, rockershovel said: clung on far too long and his overall vision was simply not viable. I thought he also had the combined tolerance for alternative suggestions of Donald Trump and Lord Voldemort. 4 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 Hmm page 1984... That has some meaning. George Orwell.... And I was living in the outer Hebrides again.. Just to upset someone.. I've just had delivered 3 months of SemaGlutide. The real thing.. about 20,000 other people are also on it... After that's gone there's a 50-50 chance of being on it or the placebo.. Start taking the pills tomorrow... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 7 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: Whoops! Looks like someone tripped one of DH's cake defence systems Was it you PB? PB? Nope. THIS is PB when cake-hunting..... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 This could get Messy Serious Noisy 1 4 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted June 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 10 minutes ago, iL Dottore said: This could get Messy Serious Noisy Of course, you'd have to be seriously greedy not to consider that half a cake each would be better than the cake being destroyed in the fracas and ending up with no cake at all! 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, Hroth said: Of course, you'd have to be seriously greedy not to consider that half a cake each would be better than the cake being destroyed in the fracas and ending up with no cake at all! Of course, that would be the sane and logical approach to take. But the merest whiff of CAKE to cakeaholics like HH and PB throws reason and rationality out the window..... 2 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 27 minutes ago, iL Dottore said: This could get Messy Serious Noisy The smart money is on The Bear..... 8 minutes ago, iL Dottore said: Of course, that would be the sane and logical approach to take. But the merest whiff of CAKE to cakeaholics like HH and PB throws reason and rationality out the window..... Not at all, as Bear & Hippo have both signed a Mutual Co-operation Pact..... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, polybear said: The smart money is on The Bear..... Not at all, as Bear & Hippo have both signed a Mutual Co-operation Pact..... To cut the cake, and then offer me a generous slice. Working together, we gather far more cake than when searching independently. Then there is our MAD policy. Mutually Assured Distribution. If Bear is short, he knows he can get stuff from me, and vice versa. 8 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, Hroth said: Of course, you'd have to be seriously greedy not to consider that half a cake each would be better than the cake being destroyed in the fracas and ending up with no cake at all! 2 hours ago, iL Dottore said: Of course, that would be the sane and logical approach to take. But the merest whiff of CAKE to cakeaholics like HH and PB throws reason and rationality out the window..... For cake, cakeaholics, HH and PB read countries and politicians and you have history and current affairs. Dave 6 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, polybear said: Not at all, as Bear & Hippo have both signed a Mutual Co-operation Pact..... Will that be as effective as the one that Hitler and Stalin signed? Dave 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 15 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: I was most disappointed to find out that a hung parliament was not each and every Right Honourable member dangling from a lamp post between Westminster and Whitehall. What about those who are merely Honourable members ? As I understand it, Right Honourables are those who members who are Privy Councillors. Adrian 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, figworthy said: What about those who are merely Honourable members ? As I understand it, Right Honourables are those who members who are Privy Councillors. Adrian Decimation would make the survivors keener at getting it right. 6 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, figworthy said: What about those who are merely Honourable members ? As I understand it, Right Honourables are those who members who are Privy Councillors. Adrian Which was originally a crap job. 2 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, bbishop said: Which was originally a crap job. All that’s changed, Bill, is that they now spread the crap far and wide. Dave 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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