RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted August 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2023 13 hours ago, KeithHC said: Surely the pannier is there to rescue the train didn’t the class 14 have quite a few mechanical problems Well, it was certainly the Class 22s that had a reputation for unreliability (although how true that actually was is possibly open to some debate, at least when comparing their reliability against other early diesel types). Not so sure about the Class 14s. I think their historical 'claim to fame' was that they should never have been built in the first place. The traffic they were designed for (local goods) was rapidly ebbing away, encouraged by the then management, who were enthusiastically putting the principles of the Beeching Report into effect. All of the class had scandalously short working lives with BR, all with withdrawn from BR service within 10 years, although a sizeable portion of the fleet was sold to industrial concerns, where they lingered for a few more years and from which employment a fair few found their way into preservation. But with my pedantic hat on, the steam loco could not have been sent to rescue the diesel, because all steam traction was withdrawn on the Western Region by then (Class 14s took over all FoD traffic from 3rd January 1966), apart from the poor few dilapidated locos soldiering on, on the Somerset & Dorset until 7th March 1966. It is more likely that another Class 14 would have been despatched to rescue the failed loco. That would have been the easiest option, as most traincrew that signed what remained of the Forest lines at that time would only have traction knowledge of the Class 14. The Hymek in the other photo would definitely have required a Lydney crew to pilot the booked driver & secondman, unless by chance there was a set of Gloucester men, who knew both Hymeks and the road to Parkend. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 1, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: Sawmills Siding: what was the height from the top of the running rail to the lip of the loading bank? Did this height remain constant for the length of the siding - or did the siding feature a climbing gradient? I have no idea of the measurement Paul. Regarding the gradient, it would appear that the wharf was slightly sloped as can be gathered from the picture. Anyway, I modelled it the supporting wall level as it wouldn't normally be seen! As CK said, there are plans to feature early occupation of the Sawmills siding by some FoDR stock. I have an old w/m 61xx and a Hawksworth coach which would be sheeted for a very late operating period with a Cl 37. There is 37 awaiting conversion! Picture courtesy of Parkhouse/Lightmoor Press Photos courtesy of Tim Venton 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Re6/6 said: I have no idea of the measurement Paul. Regarding the gradient, it would appear that the wharf was slightly sloped as can be gathered from the picture. Anyway, I modelled it the supporting wall level as it wouldn't normally be seen! As CK said, there are plans to feature early occupation of the Sawmills siding by some FoDR stock. I have an old w/m 61xx and a Hawksworth coach which would be sheeted for a very late operating period with a Cl 37. There is 37 awaiting conversion! Picture courtesy of Parkhouse/Lightmoor Press Photos courtesy of Tim Venton Aww. That's just how I remember it. The garden (last pic, between the coach and smoke box) featured a peculiar cone-shapped object that reminded me of a small wigwam. I believe it was identified as a very rare aircraft component? I understand it was taken to Bristol for preservation? I believe 4150 lived at Marsh for circa three years - 1974 until January 1978? She must have been newly arrived when I first saw her. On weekends DFR guys were in attendence to show the loco to visitors. Edited August 1, 2023 by Paul H Vigor to add information 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 30/07/2023 at 20:17, Paul H Vigor said: The Forestry Commission in the FoD swept away a lot of Wye-Dean industrial archaeology in the name of H&S? Marsh Wharf may have been lost in this same brutal cull? They are also threatening to drain Cannop Ponds. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 31/07/2023 at 11:24, Re6/6 said: No traffic today in the sidings 'Marsh Sidings' will be on show at Scalefour Southwest at Wells on 12th and 13th of August and at Scaleforum on 23rd and 24th of September. That right there, is modelling perfection. Oodles of atmosphere, and not a train in sight. 4 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Killybegs said: They are also threatening to drain Cannop Ponds. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-64912354 Shocking news. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Re6/6 Posted August 2, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 The end of the Sawmills siding...very much disused and normally unseen! It's unclear if it ever went further along the wharf. 18 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2023 The siding definitely had a serious gradient: 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 2, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 Indeed it did by the looks of things! Thank you for that. Never seen that picture before. Too late to change the siding now! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, Re6/6 said: Indeed it did by the looks of things! Thank you for that. Never seen that picture before. Too late to change the siding now! Explains why the pannier tank's footplate appears to be at regular platform level in the 1970s photos - it was parked at the 'shallow end'! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 01/08/2023 at 10:07, Re6/6 said: As CK said, there are plans to feature early occupation of the Sawmills siding by some FoDR stock. I have an old w/m 61xx and a Hawksworth coach which would be sheeted for a very late operating period with a Cl 37. There is 37 awaiting conversion! Picture courtesy of Parkhouse/Lightmoor Press Although the Lightmoor book that photo is in claims the 37 was unidentified, there is video evidence that it was 37 270 that worked the last BR traffic out of Parkend Marsh Sidings. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted August 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2023 15 hours ago, Re6/6 said: Indeed it did by the looks of things! Thank you for that. Never seen that picture before. Too late to change the siding now! Just as well, it wouldn't be much use for parking wagons in! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Re6/6 Posted December 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2023 Seasons greetings, John. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and to a Happy New Year. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted December 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2023 Thank you Rob. All the best. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Captain Kernow Posted June 16 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 16 Today we tested John's Class 22 - D6331 - on the layout, it having recently been converted to P4 as per my blog - and weathered. All was well: The above is John's loco. Here by way of contrast is my BR blue one on an earlier occasion: It would be theoretically possible for both locos to have appeared at the same time, although by 1967, when the Class 22s took over from the Class 14s, there would only have been one loco working the Forest diagram. 31 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Re6/6 Posted June 18 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 18 (edited) All the 16T minerals have been tested so as to remove any 'troublesome trucks' in preparation for appearing at the the 'Larkhall Festival of Model Railways'. They're a mixture of Airfix, Parkside and Bachmann all of which are mostly with 'solid' suspension. They're weighted to around 40g (IIRC) A couple are Bill Bedford sprung and however roughly shunted they perform very well. The Toad has a BB LMS sprung underframe fitted and glides beautifully with hard hand pushing. Most have Black Beetle wheels which I do like the best. The two that didn't perform very well were the 'compensated' ones with rocking internal bearings probably proving the theory that SWB wagons don't need suspension although with BB springing they perform beautifully but there's more work involved! Edited June 18 by Re6/6 Spelling! 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, Re6/6 said: All the 16T minerals have been tested so as to remove any 'troublesome trucks' in preparation for appearing at the the 'Larkhall Festival of Model Railways'. They're a mixture of Airfix, Parkside and Bachmann all of which are mostly with 'solid' suspension. They're weighted to around 40g (IIRC) A couple are Bill Bedford sprung and however roughly shunted they perform very well. The Toad has a BB LMS sprung underframe fitted and glides beautifully with hard hand pushing. Most have Black Beetle wheels which I do like the best. The two that didn't perform very well were the 'compensated' ones with rocking internal bearings probably proving the theory that SWB wagons don't need suspension although with BB springing they perform beautifully but there's more work involved! Really looking forward to seeing the two Parkend’s together, Jerry 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18 2 hours ago, queensquare said: Really looking forward to seeing the two Parkend’s together, Jerry Should that not be bookends ? 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19 15 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Should that not be bookends ? Perhaps we should park that one for now and book a further discussion in due course. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted July 9 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9 A very fruitful operating session was had today with CK, checking out everything prior to attending 'Larkrail International Festival of Railways and Byways 2024' on Saturday which we are greatly looking forward to! I'm endebted to Tim for his work on fettling all the motive power for me. Some 'dogs' now run sweetly! Particularly improved is the Class 14. Video link https://youtu.be/wL6ncQWhAc0 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Captain Kernow Posted July 9 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 9 On a sunny day in the Forest of Dean: 16 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: On a sunny day in the Forest of Dean: Show off...!!! 🙄😝😝😝🤣🤣🤣 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Re6/6 Posted July 9 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: On a sunny day in the Forest of Dean: .......until the peace and quiet was shattered.....! 16 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9 On 18/06/2024 at 16:51, queensquare said: Really looking forward to seeing the two Parkend’s together, No end of Parkends? Mike. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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