rob D2 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 22/05/2024 at 21:45, rob D2 said: HTV I have the gift of second sight … if anyone wants the lottery results for next week, DM me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26 HST very much outside my frame of interest, but I'm sure would sell. This thing was in front line service for over 40 years and an absolute icon, to the extent that graphics representing trains usually used the silhouette or outline. They got everywhere there was a main line, as near universal as it got between 1980 and 2020, and the mk3 coach had a pretty fair spread as a loco-hauled item as well. The train that saved British Rail. I was working on the railway when they were introduced, and we were very proud of them. At that time, the fastest-timetabled diesel service in the world, the fastest in the world running on 'normal' (not specially built Shinkansen/TGV) tracks, and the only 125mph service anywhere in the world that did not require reservations or premium fares for airco, eth, air suspension, and double-glazing. Quite an achievemen; I was still working on the railway when it was introduced, sometimes in brake vans, and we were rightly and justifiably very proud of it! It, and the mk3 coaches, reversed a decline in railway passenger traffic that had been endemic for more than half a century, and led directly to the modern situation, where there is more traffic than the TOCs or NR can cope with. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 11 hours ago, The Johnster said: ... and led directly to the modern situation, where there is more traffic than the TOCs or NR can cope with. Which is probably why the succeeding generations of passenger stock have been designed to discourage travel. ☹️ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold wombatofludham Posted May 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28 Thinking about this, I wonder if a 58 might be something Cavalex might have on their radar post the 60? It would complement their other Type 5s nicely and build on their reputation for good heavy haulers, and with the 56 and 60 they have demonstrated they are not afraid to take on and beat competing models. I just wonder if they feel there is enough demand for a 58 when the Heljan/EFE model is still knocking around. That model has room to be improved on so perhaps it might be worth a punt for them, rather than Accurascale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted June 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11 So there’s duplication with the Class 60, which all going well will mean both manufacturers benefit. There’s lots of excitement over the Class 25s coming out from SLW and Bachmann, with the Heljan one also that is still a lot better than the early Bachmann one. I’m trying not….to…..blurt….it…out, but… You should do a 40! There, I feel much better getting that off my chest! Despite having 10 detailed Bachmann examples, I’m always in the market for more. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted June 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12 23 hours ago, 97406 said: You should do a 40! D200 / 40122 mid 80’s condition, pretty pretty please! Photo Credit: Chris Brown (Flickr) 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted June 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12 13 minutes ago, Banger Blue said: D200 / 40122 mid 80’s condition, pretty pretty please! Photo Credit: Chris Brown (Flickr) That'd be a good'un, though the green one I want is now 40106. Here's my D200 alongside departmental 97405 (40060). When it comes to Class 40s, 25s and 37s, I can't get enough of 'em, even though I'm spending a little time in Spoonville at the moment! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Queen Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 A new Gronk would indeed be nice! As good as the Hornby and Bachmann variants were, both are now over 20 years old and the need for a new updated version is probably overdue! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset33 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 26/05/2024 at 13:00, MoonM said: A provocative post but the clues (eg hiring of Alex Carpenter, clues in recent accurascale videos, and the compelling business case) that accurascale are looking at an hst and mk3 tooling project. Of course I could be completely wrong, but on the assumption there may be something in this, maybe we could help out accurascale by suggesting the liveries and variants of hst and mk3 stock that we would love to see? From my perspective I love the sectorisation era so something quite generic like any swallow livery hst would be welcome. Also a wessex 442 in NSE would be amazing. As an outlier choice, how about 43038 in the full yellow end swallow hst livery? I presume Alex would want to introduce 43025,but in what livery? one day, I might be able to replicate this on my layout 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 On 26/05/2024 at 13:00, MoonM said: A provocative post but the clues (eg hiring of Alex Carpenter, clues in recent accurascale videos, and the compelling business case) that accurascale are looking at an hst and mk3 tooling project. Of course I could be completely wrong, but on the assumption there may be something in this, maybe we could help out accurascale by suggesting the liveries and variants of hst and mk3 stock that we would love to see? From my perspective I love the sectorisation era so something quite generic like any swallow livery hst would be welcome. Also a wessex 442 in NSE would be amazing. As an outlier choice, how about 43038 in the full yellow end swallow hst livery? I presume Alex would want to introduce 43025,but in what livery? Taking you at your word, I would love Mk. IIIs with the appropriate modifications to run between my pair of Chiltern 68s or a 68 and a DVT. I have to admit that the best time to introduce them would have been when the model 68s were first introduced. Perhaps there isn’t enough demand any more to make them viable but on the other hand, as part of a tooling suite, they might be. Accurascale is known for producing variants on toolings. I posted this picture a long time ago, showing how I have had to improvise. 1 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) It appears some modellers' wishes have been catered for by another manufacturer. Despite all of the 'talk', the only big difference is the addition of lighting and augmented DCC functionality, and that uncoupling device ... at what price? The 08/09. Still waiting for the A/S 40, Black 5, 8F, Parallel Scot, Jubilee ... perhaps a hydraulic Warship 42 ... Al. Edited June 15 by atom3624 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted June 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15 19 minutes ago, atom3624 said: It appears some modellers' wishes have been catered for by another manufacturer. Despite all of the 'talk', the only big difference is the addition of lighting and augmented DCC functionality, and that uncoupling device ... at what price? The 08/09. In terms of detail I'd say it's streets ahead of the current Bachmann or Hornby offerings. As much detail as we now expect from recent releases. The lighting and auto uncoupler are amazing. But the price? Going by other Bachmann recent releases I fear it will be astronomical. The only competition is Hornby, who also charge an arm and a leg for what is now an inferior product. Maybe if A N Other manufacturer coughaccurascalecough announce a similar spec 08 at a reasonable price point it will temper Bachmann's pricing, as has happened with the 31. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskra Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, atom3624 said: It appears some modellers' wishes have been catered for by another manufacturer. Despite all of the 'talk', the only big difference is the addition of lighting and augmented DCC functionality, and that uncoupling device ... at what price? The 08/09. Still waiting for the A/S 40, Black 5, 8F, Parallel Scot, Jubilee ... perhaps a hydraulic Warship 42 ... Al. And a stay alive. Along with sound and lighting, that’s quite a lot going on in a small locomotive, even more so for the versions with auto coupling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted June 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15 3 hours ago, atom3624 said: It appears some modellers' wishes have been catered for by another manufacturer. Despite all of the 'talk', the only big difference is the addition of lighting and augmented DCC functionality, and that uncoupling device ... at what price? The 08/09. Only big difference? What do you want, more wheels a coal tender, maybe a coat hanger on its roof , it’s a 08. It goes to show how good the older models were. Prices well it’s not going to be cheap but what is nowadays? I recon £150 standard £240 sound and £270 for the dogs dangles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff McC Posted June 15 Accurascale staff Share Posted June 15 16 minutes ago, farren said: Only big difference? What do you want, more wheels a coal tender, maybe a coat hanger on its roof , it’s a 08. It goes to show how good the older models were. Prices well it’s not going to be cheap but what is nowadays? I recon £150 standard £240 sound and £270 for the dogs dangles Might hold true for the accurascale one but this isnt the thread for price speculation about other manufacturers 😃😃 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) I'd love to see a coat hangar in there - removable of course with optional jackets - held by magnets perhaps! Looks like the 08/09 is a done deal, so unless they 'do a Hornby' and price themselves out of the market of normal mortals, it's back to 'what else do we like' .... Most popular locomotive wish by a country mile, for at least 12-15 months, has been the Class 40. It's all gone very quiet on 'that other manufacturer's site' who have announced one, and I for one would love an AccuraScale Class 40 ... I'm just trying to imagine what the weight would be!! Al. Edited June 15 by atom3624 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold wombatofludham Posted June 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15 55 minutes ago, atom3624 said: I'm just trying to imagine what the weight would be!! Al. Don't worry, it'll have 8 axles to spread the load. They used to regularly turn up at Barmouth when the bridge was barred to some Class 25s so must have been relatively tippy-toed in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskra Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, atom3624 said: I'd love to see a coat hangar in there - removable of course with optional jackets - held by magnets perhaps! Looks like the 08/09 is a done deal, so unless they 'do a Hornby' and price themselves out of the market of normal mortals, it's back to 'what else do we like' .... Most popular locomotive wish by a country mile, for at least 12-15 months, has been the Class 40. It's all gone very quiet on 'that other manufacturer's site' who have announced one, and I for one would love an AccuraScale Class 40 ... I'm just trying to imagine what the weight would be!! Al. On this forum perhaps, but I’m not sure it’s all that representative. CS 73/9, a 185 or a fresh run of Voyagers would all be more popular than another Class 40 I reckon. I think the sales are in the classes still operating commonly on the network. I did call the class 60 and 08 as likely previously in this thread… Edited June 15 by Iskra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColHut Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Well an A4 or Coronation class loco that can go around a second radius curve without a flangeless rear wheel would probably attract attention. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 5 hours ago, ColHut said: Well an A4 or Coronation class loco that can go around a second radius curve without a flangeless rear wheel would probably attract attention. There are quite a few ways that could be done, even if not quite down to second radius. After recovering from a faint after seeing B******n’s V2, I realised that was one acceptable way. Quite some time ago, one of our respected regulars (I wish I could remember which one) listed a few excellent suggestions, all of which appeared to land on H****y’s stony ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, ColHut said: Well an A4 or Coronation class loco that can go around a second radius curve without a flangeless rear wheel would probably attract attention. TBH, I don't consider a trailing truck swinging well out from under the cab looks any less daft than what Hornby do. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 The slightly wider frame with 'floating' wheels within works well for Bachmann - perhaps that can be massaged to be less obvious. Steamies I would like from A/S don't have pony trucks 😉 Black 5, 8F, Parallel boiler Scot and Jubilee. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted June 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, No Decorum said: all of which appeared to land on H****y’s stony ground. The trouble is, especially with the plethora of social media platforms, that too many folk offer advice and suggestions (very often of dubious viability), only to carpet bomb social media and forums when that ‘advice’ is not immediately acted upon. Said manufacturer is then lambasted for being ‘unreasonable’. Having been part of that team at H, I know the conversations that took place, the proposed solutions, and the pressure from senior sources to conform to tradition etc. For me, a trailing truck, complete with frames, pipes etc, should not swing out from beneath the cab, however there are solutions, based on prototype, that can work for all camps. Best wishes, Paul 2 4 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs233 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 A unit is needed next, a DMU with maximum livery coverage and long service life. A first or second generation DMU seem good candidates. 101, 150, 153,170 tick such boxes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted June 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16 39 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: TBH, I don't consider a trailing truck swinging well out from under the cab looks any less daft than what Hornby do. My favourite solution was Chris Pendlenton's Hal o' the Wynd. The dummy outside frames could swing in the horizontal plane only but were sprung to the straight position. The wheels were carried with inside bearings on a truck that could swing within the outside frames on gentle curves and incorporated horns that forced the outside frames to swing on tighter curves. Vertical movement was accommodated by springing the wheels within the inner truck. The upshot was that there was no gap above the outside frames and they remained in the correct position except on the tightest curves. All in P4 of course - very Rolls Royce, craftsman built and adjusted and still no use where ultra-tight curves are the norm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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