markneilp14 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hi All. Some years ago, someone very helpfully did a chart listing the various Halfords car paints and the equivalent of that colour in model form which is brilliant. However, as the years move on cars come and go. Some colours are no longer used on cars. It is understandable that some of the Halfords spray colour paints may also be discontinued. I have found at least three colours that no longer exist in the list below.They are Rover damask red or the Vauxhall gazelle beige and VW Pargas Blue. I am currently in the middle of painting a gauge 3 railcar into blood and custard. Upon a visit to Halfords I was unable to find/get the Rover damask red or the Vauxhall gazelle beige. It is worthy of note you do not see many beige cars around today as it was a colour of the 1970-80’s. So, my question is has anyone done an updated version of the list below? If yes, then any help with regards the blood and custard colours would be greatly appreciated. I know Railmatch do the paints however the paint batches can be a bit poor on quality control whereas the quality control on Halfords is generally a lot better. Any help ideas or tips greatly appreciated. Cheers Mark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2020 Ford Burgundy Red is very similar to Damask Red, in fact I've used both. Thanks for info as I didn't know Damask Red was discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotto Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) Looks like Halfords will mix any colour so perhaps you can order obsolete colours? https://www.halfords.com/motoring/services/car-paint-matching-at-halfords.html#isSuggestion=true Edited May 29, 2020 by Sotto spelling! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sotto said: Looks like Halfords will mix any colour so perhaps you can order obsolete colours? https://www.halfords.com/motoring/services/car-paint-matching-at-halfords.html#isSuggestion=true https://www.carcolourservices.co.uk/the-colour-matching-process/ Companies like this can mix any colour, there is no such thing as an obsolete colour, whether you can get it in the formulation you require is the tricky bit. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Halfords seem to be discontinuing all their old colours, Quite a lot are discounted to £3 if you buy on line and collect from the store. I wanted some silver for my Rover 25 but there was no stock, however they had blue for the other car for £3. All these Paints are available on eBay but its £15 a can. There are probably stocks of Car Plan and the like paints around when the shops re open in a couple of weeks but long term the availability of cheap car spray paint for models doesn't look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotto Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 It's not surprising really, far fewer people are doing their own minor car repairs nowadays, whether bodywork or mechanical. Shame is that Halfords do pay lip service to the idea that people buy their paints for other purposes but they don't bother to make it easy- for example they don't seem to publish a colour chart. Someone may prove me wrong on that, but i couldn't find one recently. Of course there are other sellers, but Halfords have been the handy high street source for a long time and it will be a pity to see that end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JZ Posted May 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2020 (Land) Rover Coniston Green is also discontinued. I had to get some from a specialist and it was only available in cellulose, not acrylic. Over a grey primer, it is a match for Southern Olive Green, but I use it over a black primer and it perfectly matches US Pullman Green. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markneilp14 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Thanks guys it interesting reading your comments and input. I would lie to find a list from halfords in excel format so i can see what current colours are still matching the original list i had in the opening post. Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) I use these as they do Commercial colours as well. They will mix the colour you want. If you have a branch near to you give them a call. £13.00 a large can mixed while you wait takes about 15 mins . They will show you the paint before it's put in the can. so you can see if its the shade you want. https://groveshop.co.uk/stores Edited May 30, 2020 by crompton 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Has anyone found the correct colour for BR Southern Loco green? I did a search and all I find is the question...never the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve W Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 29/05/2020 at 22:20, DavidCBroad said: Halfords seem to be discontinuing all their old colours, Quite a lot are discounted to £3 if you buy on line and collect from the store. I wanted some silver for my Rover 25 but there was no stock, however they had blue for the other car for £3. All these Paints are available on eBay but its £15 a can. There are probably stocks of Car Plan and the like paints around when the shops re open in a couple of weeks but long term the availability of cheap car spray paint for models doesn't look good. Yes. You are correct. Halfords are significantly reducing the premixed range cans, especially the Rover ones and earlier models in general. Premixed paints for many modern cars will still be available in the stores. As far as I know any of the range can be obtained (by car model ref at least), but they will not be mixed in most stores and will need ordering.This will make them more expensive of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 The one and only time i've had a can made up from Halfords. Was 2 years ago cost £12.00 then. Now i only use there primers off the shelf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 Some places can actually scan colours and make you a can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) On 29/05/2020 at 21:49, markneilp14 said: Hi All. Some years ago, someone very helpfully did a chart listing the various Halfords car paints and the equivalent of that colour in model form which is brilliant. However, as the years move on cars come and go. Some colours are no longer used on cars. It is understandable that some of the Halfords spray colour paints may also be discontinued. I have found at least three colours that no longer exist in the list below.They are Rover damask red or the Vauxhall gazelle beige and VW Pargas Blue. I am currently in the middle of painting a gauge 3 railcar into blood and custard. Upon a visit to Halfords I was unable to find/get the Rover damask red or the Vauxhall gazelle beige. It is worthy of note you do not see many beige cars around today as it was a colour of the 1970-80’s. So, my question is has anyone done an updated version of the list below? If yes, then any help with regards the blood and custard colours would be greatly appreciated. I know Railmatch do the paints however the paint batches can be a bit poor on quality control whereas the quality control on Halfords is generally a lot better. Any help ideas or tips greatly appreciated. Cheers Mark Currently I use Halfords rover Primula (over grey) and Ford Rosso red (over brown) for Crimson and Cream Looks OK to my eyes but the Primula doesn't have a lot of colour depth Baz Quote Edited May 31, 2020 by Barry O 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Barry O said: Currently I use Halfords rover Primula (over grey) and Ford Rosso red (over brown) for Crimson and Cream I've not tried the Primula, but have used your Rosso Red combination and it is very close to the Railmatch BR Crimson shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2020 I gave up with Railmatch..the spray cans are very variable..paint consistency, nozzles clogging up, drying matt or gloss when it was supposed to be the other way around Baz 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2020 Haven't had chance to poke around the whole site but these folks have an awful lot of spray paint on offer, prices look pretty reasonable with P&P if you're buying more than a couple of cans. Extensive stocks of the "hycote' rattle cans recently discussed here for example. https://www.sprayster.com/ https://www.sprayster.com/product-category/paint-brands/hycote/hycote-primer/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 We still need a BR blue. I use rail match spray cans for blue, but the Halfords are better value and last longer I've found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 29/05/2020 at 22:20, DavidCBroad said: Halfords seem to be discontinuing all their old colours, Quite a lot are discounted to £3 if you buy on line and collect from the store. I wanted some silver for my Rover 25 but there was no stock, however they had blue for the other car for £3. All these Paints are available on eBay but its £15 a can. There are probably stocks of Car Plan and the like paints around when the shops re open in a couple of weeks but long term the availability of cheap car spray paint for models doesn't look good. That is disappointing. I had notice the discounted price when I was looking for Rover Damask Red (Midland) and Rover Midnight Blue (S&DJR) just after Easter. They weren't available for order from my local Halfords; the nearest was Maidenhead, a ten mile drive up the M4 which at that point I couldn't justify to myself. Now I'd be happy to make the trip but they're no longer available to order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, cheesysmith said: We still need a BR blue. I use rail match spray cans for blue, but the Halfords are better value and last longer I've found. Go to a paint factor then!, I can think of three I used to use in Escafeld, although they have probably closed down in the intervening millenniums, Brown Brothers was one. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 Always amazes me in halfords that the continue with the old especially BL colours. Colours like tara green and arum white probably exist on less than twenty vehicles today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Barry O said: I gave up with Railmatch..the spray cans are very variable..paint consistency, nozzles clogging up, drying matt or gloss when it was supposed to be the other way around Baz Similar experience here. Had a couple of spray varnish disasters. I now just have a small selection of pots used as a base for mixing paint for touching in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, russ p said: Always amazes me in halfords that the continue with the old especially BL colours. Colours like tara green and arum white probably exist on less than twenty vehicles today Probably enough people buying them for other uses. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve W Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 18 hours ago, russ p said: Always amazes me in halfords that the continue with the old especially BL colours. Colours like tara green and arum white probably exist on less than twenty vehicles today That's why they are being discontinued. There will still be a range covering popular current vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Go to a paint factor then!, I can think of three I used to use in Escafeld, although they have probably closed down in the intervening millenniums, Brown Brothers was one. Mike. Brown Brothers was taken over by Part co . Now they have gone aswell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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