locomotive kits 30368's Workbench SR Loco's with a bit of LNER

[30368]

A little more accomplished, but it does strain the eyes somewhat! I must do a rivet count later.....not really they are probably set bolts anyway.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

Coming along nicely - although, as you would imagine, it is tiring for the eyes. The comet valve gear etch has arrived as has the Markits safety valves and whistle.

 

 

The cladding sheets seemed to be held on with a combination of small rivets and larger set bolts. Some of my rivets are oversize. As the years go by many go missing especially those securing inspection covers until the inspection covers go missing too. Sandbox filler covers opened.

 

Phil asked me earlier if it was good to work with such thin brass sheet. Well yes it is but it needs careful handling and its very rewarding to see a "gold" WC emerge. I have had this resurrection of my old "Winston Churchill" body with brass sheet in mind for many years but put in at the back of my mind and got on with all the other important things in life. When I returned to modelling I noticed that others had had the same idea so not such a daft idea!

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Richard B

 

Edited August 26, 2023 by 30368

[30368]

Thanks for the interest guys.

PLease indulge me for a little while.

On a related issue, DLT asked, a little while ago, if a "Kitmaster" body would have been a better starting point? A good suggestion but my project was to turn a beat up, and very old Hornby body into something presentable. Having said that, I did use a "Kitmaster" tender body in my re-working of my Hornby Bude R2685 which, if you recall, was in the guise of the 1948 Locomotive Exchanges. It was coupled to a black LMS Stanier tender and the loco was still in Malachite Green. I wanted Bude to be in early 1950's appearance so I repainted the loco in early 1950's BR Green and then used a "Kitmaster" Bulleid Pacific tender kit to match the loco.

 

Bude has hardly been used but sadly it has the Hornby gear train issue with the motor spinning but little forward motion. I plan to send it to Peter's Spares who provide a fixed price repair service - I really am not interested in delving into Hornby drive mechanisms...

 

Tender's on parade. So on the left is Bude's tender which I patch painted to create an Intermeadiate overhaul appearance it will be re-allocated to the brass plated Watersmeet when it is finished. Next is a spare Hornby tender purchased from Ebay for Bude this will have to be re-painted since the colour is just wrong. Lastly is the cut down tender from Wilton R2218 which is closer to the correct colour.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Richard B

Edited August 27, 2023 by 30368

[30368]

Have been busy but not on model railways!

 

The connecting and coupling rods are now fitted. The piston rods are scratch built. Still needs adjustment but the chassis operates fairly smoothly.

 

 

 

 

KInd regards,

 

Richard B

[Mallard60022]

That is starting to look 'interesting'. It will be really something to compare this, when complete, to a Hornby version.  One thing for sure will be a great satisfaction in the fact you 'produced it' and, of course, the back story.

Phil

[30368]

Bogie and trailing pony now fitted. I just need to arrange fixing points on the old Hornby body for the chassis and then I will finish off the body.

 

Not sure about the chimney cover - I think this arrangement was only fitted to the original MNs.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

Edited September 4, 2023 by 30368

[Mallard60022]

Have you got any references (Pics or diagrams) for that Chimney Cover?

Phil

[30368]

27 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Have you got any references (Pics or diagrams) for that Chimney Cover?

 

Yes for the MN but no for the WC/BB will search further.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[Mallard60022]

12 minutes ago, 30368 said:

 

Yes for the MN but no for the WC/BB will search further.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

Ill have a shufty in my WC/BB book of everything ever known about everything!

P

[Mallard60022]

No they didn't!

Got a couple of pics:

first is two brand new ones from above;

second is the one that fell off at Hither Green!

Don't forget the few that had odd fronts as an experiment in 1960/1 and, of curse 34006 that retained the Exchange period, Long Deflectors throughout it's life.

Haven't forgotten the U1!

ATB Phll

[34016]

1 hour ago, 30368 said:

 

Yes for the MN but no for the WC/BB will search further.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

Hi 30368, The 'cover' isn't a cover, its a surround for the series 1 merchants which didn't have the fairing behind the chimney.

 

34016

[30368]

2 hours ago, 34016 said:

Hi 30368, The 'cover' isn't a cover, its a surround for the series 1 merchants which didn't have the fairing behind the chimney.

 

34016

 

Many thanks Bodmin , much appreciated. Now you have pointed that out it is ringing a bell. I will remove it.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[30368]

Chassis being run in now. All fixing points sorted so onto detailing and then painting. Chassis is amazingly silent when running at all speeds. What have I done wrong?

 

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

 

 

 

[30368]

Car servicing week. There are no dealer servicing centres in Buxton to its a journey to Wilmslow for Mrs B and to Derby for me so not much Railway Modelling this week.

 

I have received some really excellent WC/BB parts from RT models. Injectors, cab windows, smoke deflectors and many more bits and bobs. Really good quality, they took a little longer to arrive but I believe the owner of RT is a Train Driver so is often on shift but still manages to deliver. Well done, great job.

 

Some primer just flashed on to locate some of the small covers etc. The rear pony casting (again, RT models) is at an odd angle. My drawing of the WC/BB insists that the pony wheel is 3' 1" in diameter but I think it is 3' 7", can anyone confirm? Body only temp. fit.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[Mallard60022]

Richard, the U1 won't be on Shed until later in the year I'm afraid. My apologies. On your 'return', if I remember your plans correctly?

That can is going to look the works matey.

Great wibbly sheeting; truly proto.

Philth.

 

[30368]

4 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Richard, the U1 won't be on Shed until later in the year I'm afraid. My apologies. On your 'return', if I remember your plans correctly?

 

No problem Phil. back Friday 15th.

 

Thanks, I'm pleased with it so far. When painted an weathered, I think it will look good - I thought I would make it very dirty and then clean it up so that all the joins show up. It will be about 1960, 34030 still had original lining and BR logo and the tender was original too.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[Mallard60022]

42 minutes ago, 30368 said:

 

No problem Phil. back Friday 15th.

 

Thanks, I'm pleased with it so far. When painted an weathered, I think it will look good - I thought I would make it very dirty and then clean it up so that all the joins show up. It will be about 1960, 34030 still had original lining and BR logo and the tender was original too.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

It can have a DC outing at Seaton Junction some day. 12 Coaches or whatever.

15th plus then R.

P

[Michael Edge]

WC/BB locos have 3'1" trailing pony wheels, MN are 3'7". You need to lower the truck pivot to get it level.

[30368]

1 hour ago, Michael Edge said:

WC/BB locos have 3'1" trailing pony wheels, MN are 3'7". You need to lower the truck pivot to get it level.

 

Thanks Michael. I intended to sort the pony truck level anyway. My Roche drawing is correct then.

Smoke deflectors on and this is the "Kitmaster" tender it will be paired with - some ride hight adjustment required.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

 

 

Edited September 7, 2023 by 30368

[30368]

 

Cylinder wrappers fitted and some pipework and injector casting fitted.

All very temp re- chassis fit to body.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[30368]

Final snaps before we are off to Dublin.

 

Ride hight now ok. Pony truck was much improved with a plastic tube over the wheel set axle and insulating washers between wheel and pony truck. I really like this image since the light reflected from the pre-1954 BR green gloss paint looks authentic with the panel ripples showing up nicely.

 

Bogie location will have to change, I had thought that I could use the centre pivot but I suspect I will need to mount it further back with a pivot arm.

 

Bogie now sorted using centre pivot. Pony truck still needs a little more trimming. Looking like a proper "Light Pacific". At last it runs really well.

 

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

Edited September 10, 2023 by 30368

[30368]

Back from Dublin. Mrs B and I had a simply wonderful time in this friendly and beautiful city. We used the DART to visit the seaside town of Blackrock where I was able to visit the tiny two up two down house that my father lived in during the late 1920s and into the 1930s. He was born, probably in Dublin, in 1913. I really recommend Dublin for a city break.

 

Detail being added.

 

Cylinder inspection covers added.

 

This image shows the panel ripple very well.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

Edited September 16, 2023 by 30368

[jrg1]

An interesting resurrection, and it will be good to see the finished model.  It was mentioned that Markits produced paper sides for the Bulleid pacifics, which would probably have saved time.  

I would prefer to use 0.010 plastic sheet for the same effect, as I am (Slowly) converting an Airfix Bulleid to the proposed 2-8-2, with an eight wheeled tender.  

[30368]

4 hours ago, jrg1 said:

I would prefer to use 0.010 plastic sheet for the same effect, as I am (Slowly) converting an Airfix Bulleid to the proposed 2-8-2, with an eight wheeled tender.  

 

That sounds an interesting project. I don't think I have seen any illustrations of the proposed 2-8-2 but can understand the motivation behind the idea given Mr Bulleid's involvement in the LNER P2. Please feel free to post some images of your project.

 

I went for 0.002" brass sheet clading for a number of reasons. Whilst I cleaned off most of the Hornby detail from the surface of the body I was still concerned about adding width and hight to the body. More importantly, thin brass sheet is very malleable and "pulls in" where rivet/bolt heads are created by my scriber and, using a ball ended tool, can be distorted creating a much more prototype look. It seems to have worked. I  guess you can do similar with plasticard, it is probably best to stick with the material you are familiar with and given the project, you are not constrained by an actual prototypes dimentions.

 

I was not aware of the Markits sheets but have the similar (I assume) Albert Goodall versions. In the event I didn't use them.

 

Kind regards,

 

30368

[30368]

Working on the cylinder drain cocks operating mechanism. Albert Goodall (RT Models) drain cock/pipes etches are very good.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

30368