locomotive kits 30368's Workbench SR Loco's with a bit of LNER

[30368]

On 07/12/2021 at 19:40, Jon4470 said:

Thank you for that information - I didn’t realise that Alan Gibson do the oil pots. I will have to investigate.

Jon,

 

Part number is, I think, 4M 826. I must order some more too.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

I have not been slacking in the last seven days but Christmas does come with responsibilities if you have a fairly large family as we do. Four very busy daughters and their offspring (love them all) keeps one busy even when remote.

 

I have now assembled the valve gear and after a bit of adjustment to piston valve rod (they are usually modelled with DJH kits unlike many others) lengths the set-up runs freely. Chassis undergoing running in period now.

 

AS mentioned earlier, valvegear mostly assembled with 14 and 16BA screws/nuts. It can all be dismantled for servicing. Hopefully it won't do that whilst pulling a train!

 

One point to mention, the top of the combination lever (the lever with two dimples on the top) extends beyond the top of the motion plate and so it fouls the underside of the running plate. This needs clearance to be created by drilling a 1mm hole and then opening this up to create a counter sunk (I used 5mm drill) area to provide clearance for the lever top movement.

 

 

 

The chassis being run in - I just use a bottle of flux and a roll of resin cored solder to act as a buffer. I fitted the body just to make sure that there was no fouling between chassis and body. Applying power resulted in bottle and solder being shunted to the end of the road! Should be able to pull a bit then.

 

 

I wish everyone involved in our hobby a very Merry Christmas and a very healthy 2022. Special thanks to all those that have helped me by providing advice and guidance this year. Please take care.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Richard B

[30368]

One last post (probably) before Christmas. I have been working on the firebox back plate casting and other cab parts and then made a start on the injectors.

 

In addition I have been giving some thought to the location of the chassis in the body (or vice - versa if you prefer). The location of the fixed nuts in the body mean that the chassis is too far back, i.e. too close to the cab. The front of the cylinders needs to be fairly close to the downturn in the running plate. So I have solved this problem by increasing the slot in frame for the set screw that secures the body to the smokebox captive nut. This results in the rear of the chassis being too far forward of the rear captive nut in the body. I solved this by soldering a short extention to the rear of the chasssis with a slot cut in it so that the rear set screw can reach the rear captive nut. Sorry I'll take a picture to illustrate!!

 

The firebox back plate with fittings and painted. Also shows the excellent Markits SR screw reverser and equally excellent Alan Gibson drivers brake valve. The copper wire parts are some of the pipes for the injectors.

 

I ahve been a bit lazy, I found this Hornby N15 boging in my scrap box so I have adapted this to fit the S15. Ah! the brass disc on the running plate is not, as I stated earlier, the sandbox lid but a cover to give access to the top of the union link and is in the wrong position. I found a better picture of the prototype. Now remedied!

 

The two injector castings (Alan Gibson) are in position and just need the copper spaghetti to be added! Easier said than done.

 

I hope that you can see the new, and correct locations of the inspection cover and sandbox lid.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[Guest Jack Benson]

Hi,

 

Do you have the reference number of the AG driver’s brake handy? I have a T9 in dire need.

 

Thanks

 

Tim

[30368]

4 hours ago, Jack Benson said:

Do you have the reference number of the AG driver’s brake handy? I have a T9 in dire need.

 

 

Hi Tim,

 

I have unwittingly mislead you - the Drivers Brake valve is a Branchlines production so a call to Brian is required!

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard

[Guest Jack Benson]

Hi Richard, 

 

A photo and suitable request have been sent to Mr Osborne. 
 

Very many thanks and have a super Christmas holiday

 

StaySafe

[Wilton 34041]

Really enjoying this build. I'm learning a lot and quite inspired to start on mine. Do you know the part ref for the Alan Gibson injectors please? I have a number of kits that would benefit. Happy Christmas and a healthy modelling New Year.

Phil B.

[30368]

3 hours ago, Wilton 34041 said:

Do you know the part ref for the Alan Gibson injectors please?

 

Hi Phil,

 

The S15 injectors have been adapted from GWR/BR Live steam Injector Part No 4M810 - orientation change. The vacuum side ejector is BR Vacuum Ejector Part No 4M799, this item needs to be turned around 180 degrees and the extended ejector body shortened by about 1.5mm and then the end bent around 90 degrees. I must order some more! I have an N15 to build next.

 

Some images:

 

All the pipework in place on the injector and the running plate support bracket added. The latter is attached to the frames, the rest to the body. I really like the way that the scale oil has attached itself to the frames - looks really good. Incidently, the auto drain valve soldered to one of the pipes is made from a modified Markits crankpin nut.

 

Closer. I drill blind holes in the running plate to locate the pipework.

 

The Vacuum ejector side, pipework still to add. Sorry a bit out of focus! The oil effect even better this side.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

 

 

[Mallard60022]

I really like the lube pipe run (and cover) on the left boiler side. Not seen that done so well b4. 

Phil

[30368]

Truly the last update before Yule Tide.

 

Body not screwed down. The front of Urie's various 4-6-0s always remind me of a WW1 tank or the superstructure of a battlecruiser of the same period.

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[Wilton 34041]

On 21/12/2021 at 12:34, 30368 said:

 

Hi Phil,

 

The S15 injectors have been adapted from GWR/BR Live steam Injector Part No 4M810 - orientation change. The vacuum side ejector is BR Vacuum Ejector Part No 4M799, this item needs to be turned around 180 degrees and the extended ejector body shortened by about 1.5mm and then the end bent around 90 degrees. I must order some more! I have an N15 to build next.

 

Some images:

 

All the pipework in place on the injector and the running plate support bracket added. The latter is attached to the frames, the rest to the body. I really like the way that the scale oil has attached itself to the frames - looks really good. Incidently, the auto drain valve soldered to one of the pipes is made from a modified Markits crankpin nut.

 

Closer. I drill blind holes in the running plate to locate the pipework.

 

The Vacuum ejector side, pipework still to add. Sorry a bit out of focus! The oil effect even better this side.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

 

 

Thanks Richard, I must get some too. This build is so inspiring I must build mine next year, just hope I can make it look good like yours.

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year

Phil B.

[30368]

3 hours ago, Wilton 34041 said:

Thanks Richard, I must get some too. This build is so inspiring I must build mine next year, just hope I can make it look good like yours.

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year

 

Thanks so much Phil, I hope you and yours have a great day today and a healthy 2022. Looking forward to seeing your Urios S15 completed in 2022, please post a picture or two.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

A bit of a delay to progress on the S15... I contracted Covid around Boxing Day! Feel a bit rubbish but I am a fit old git who has had 3 jabs so not too serious so far......

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[richard i]

Hope you pull through the worst of it quickly. 
richard 

[30368]

Thanks so much for your good will, it really is appreciated. The symptoms were relatively mild so I am advised by the clinicians in the family that it is probably Omicron.

 

I am feeling a lot better which is just as well as Mrs B starts to go down with it...

 

My job to care for her now.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[Wilton 34041]

8 hours ago, 30368 said:

Thanks so much for your good will, it really is appreciated. The symptoms were relatively mild so I am advised by the clinicians in the family that it is probably Omicron.

 

I am feeling a lot better which is just as well as Mrs B starts to go down with it...

 

My job to care for her now.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

Hi Richard, gosh I'm glad it didn't turn nasty and your getting better. I hope Mrs B also doesn't suffer much or for long. I haven't had it yet but two of my adult children have and came through it like you. 

Best wishes, Phil B.

[30368]

18 hours ago, Wilton 34041 said:

I haven't had it yet but two of my adult children have and came through it like you. 

 

Hi Phil,

 

Many thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated. Two of my daughters have had it too but they expected it being clinicians in the NHS. Mrs B is doing very well thanks. Hope to report back on progress with the S15 in the next few days. Pleased that you are thus far clear, try to avoid! Its nasty even with the milder Omicron version.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

Happy New Year to all.

 

S15 30507 is almoust complete. I have modelled it in the early 1950's when it had a Drummond tender and the cabside displayed both 6F and power category "A".

 

The tender has the remains of the MT livery transfer still attached!

 

Weathering applied.

 

 

Given the weathring is powder, it can be gently polished out and I may do that at a later date.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

 

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by 30368

[30368]

A few more, and perhaps better, pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[davidw]

Just now, 30368 said:

A few more, and perhaps better, pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

Great weathering, Powders or airbrush?

[30368]

1 hour ago, davidw said:

Great weathering, Powders or airbrush?

Very kind David.

 

I use powders since these can gently be removed if you want to revert to a loco that looks as if it has been cleaned. I use cotton buds/soft tissue to lightly polish off the powder which creates a very metalic looking surface with texture that can look fairly good. The dirt is left in place in all the areas that a cleaner would have avoided as "too difficult". These are not meant to be representations of preserved loco's but as I remembered them in the 1950's and 60's. Sometimes I use Pledge Klear to clean off the poweder and create a shiny finish.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

Whilst I am fully engaged with layout matters I have not ignored the odd bargain or two. I spotted this Nu-Cast V2 which uses a Bachmann tender (the parts for the kit tender are in the box as are all the parts not currently fitted to the loco). It was a very reluctant runner. I have tightened up one or two wheels that were loose on their axles, cleaned wheel treads and pickups and then lubricated and it now runs pretty well if a bit noisy.

 

I will return to it later and add some detail and give it a general clean etc. Not bad for £45!

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

Edited February 11, 2022 by 30368

[30368]

In between waiting for things to dry on the layout I have sneaked over to the workbench to take a look at the Nu-Cast V2. Its is numbered as Green Arrow and I will probably leave it as that loco on the basis that towards the end of steam it may have tripped down to Basingstoke on "special". The Backmann tender will be ok for the loco in the 1960s. The Nu-cast kit does not come equiped with brake gear or axle springs. So I have given that some thought and purchased the Hornby chassis bottom assembly (X6290 from Peters Spares arounf £6) from their B17 which has the correct pattern brake hanger/block and springs. The wheelbase is also similar to the V2.

 

I am now fitting these to the chassis together with some additional detail and when complete will take a few snaps and explain what I have done to fit these parts. Looking good.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[Mallard60022]

40 minutes ago, 30368 said:

In between waiting for things to dry on the layout I have sneaked over to the workbench to take a look at the Nu-Cast V2. Its is numbered as Green Arrow and I will probably leave it as that loco on the basis that towards the end of steam it may have tripped down to Basingstoke on "special". The Backmann tender will be ok for the loco in the 1960s. The Nu-cast kit does not come equiped with brake gear or axle springs. So I have given that some thought and purchased the Hornby chassis bottom assembly (X6290 from Peters Spares arounf £6) from their B17 which has the correct pattern brake hanger/block and springs. The wheelbase is also similar to the V2.

 

I am now fitting these to the chassis together with some additional detail and when complete will take a few snaps and explain what I have done to fit these parts. Looking good.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Richard B

If only I had your enthusiasm for rescuing poor things such as that! It will look OK and yes, Basingstoke would have seen it or one or two, usually, on Pigeon Specials going south and that is a fact not a Rule 1.

P

 

[30368]

54 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Basingstoke would have seen it or one or two, usually, on Pigeon Specials going south and that is a fact not a Rule 1.

P

 

Thanks Phil, I think B1's also did a few trips via Reading onto the SR on Pigeon specials too.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard