Lacathedrale Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I've dug out a wagon to finish up (see Imperial Workbench and/or S-scale area). It has an etched underframe the comes with a one-sided set of brakes which look wonderful, and one pivoting W-iron. However, when the the W-iron pivots, it causes the wheel face/flange to rub against one or the other side of the fixed brake shoes, which then adds a little drag/rotation which causes a vertical deflection between the body and the W-iron, which then causes it to rub more, etc. etc. causing a waddle. Stiffening the pivot may make the initial state less likely to occur, but it feels like I'm missing something fundamental here - should the brake shoe be far enough away either horizontally (or in depth, or both?) that it cannot touch the wheel face/flange? I have already shaved a wedge off the back of the brake shoe to give clearance, but no joy. This feels like it must be a solved issue, after all - the same problem would manifest in EM, P4 or S7 with the same principal - and I would like to know what can do or have done wrong... For the sake of prettiness, here's an otherwised unused photo of the offending wagon: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I file the brake shoes so that the profile matches the wheel profile and ensure that thee is enough clearance top and bottom. I also restrict the amount of rock as .5mm either way is sufficient. I model in P4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Maybe reducing the rock is a solution, it's at least a couple of of mm currently. The shoe does match the profile, it's just very close. Thank you, I will check it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 If your wheels rock to the extent of a couple of mm - then it's time to check your track laying! Whilst running, the amount of 'rock' should be negligible, only enough to follow slight irregularities in the track. In P4, I just file the brake shoe to provide a bit of clearance but quite often, depending on the kit, I find that the shoes could do with a bit of thickening! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Ah, I don't mean that my track varies - just that when pushing it along the workbench. I'm not pushing perfectly perpendicular to the axis of the wheels, which seems to start off a slight rock that is then exaggerated as the wheels alternately 'brake' on the inside of the shoe and increase the waddle, just that the design of the pivot permits a couple of mm maximum pivoting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 I bent the shoe very slightly away from the wheel face, and packed out the pivoting W-iron - and it works great. Thank you @5050 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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