Robin Brasher Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On page 64 of the March Hornby Magazine there is a review of Hornby's Restaurant Buffet with pictures of the BR maroon, green and Intercity versions. The cutaway picture shows the brown interior which looks like it is crying out to be painted in authentic colours. The review shows which Mk1 coaches are available in the new range and goes on with a history of the restaurant buffets followed by a review of the model. The reviewer is impressed with the paint finish and quality of the underframe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 05/02/2021 at 21:58, SouthernMafia said: My inspiration: My models....still lots to do, the 73 only arrived this week so is box fresh! I have the correct formation with all Hornby Mk1 BG/FO/FO/RB/FO and a Bachmann Mk2 BFK in the rear to be repainted. Cool stuff - You got me inspired again. Here I removed the Bachmann Mk2 FO and replaced it with a Bachmann Mk1 in Choc/Cream and then replaced a Hornby Brk with a Replica Mk1 BG. The Hornby RB is in 4th spot sandwiched between 2 darker Bachmann Mk1s: Here I have dug out my Brighton Evening Argus. The Choc/Cream now replaced by a Hornby brake. The difference in green between the first 4 is quite striking in this shot (replica then Hornby then Bachmann then Hornby): 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) As this carriage has been produced with the cut-outs at interior roof level to enable lighting to be fitted, it's a pity that the power bogie that was on the R4607, R4609 and R4609A Mk1's with lights, does not appear to be available as a spare. Although there are a number of carriage lighting kits available, it would be so much easier to attach a power bogie and run a couple of wires up to a LED strip attached to the underside of the roof and take your lighting from the track. I assume(?) the lighting cut-outs are now on all of the new Mk1's? Edited February 12, 2021 by Bulleidboy100 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 12/02/2021 at 17:36, Bulleidboy100 said: As this carriage has been produced with the cut-outs at interior roof level to enable lighting to be fitted, it's a pity that the power bogie that was on the R4607, R4609 and R4609A Mk1's with lights, does not appear to be available as a spare. Although there are a number of carriage lighting kits available, it would be so much easier to attach a power bogie and run a couple of wires up to a LED strip attached to the underside of the roof and take your lighting from the track. I assume(?) the lighting cut-outs are now on all of the new Mk1's? The only Hornby Mk1s I have with lights have BR1 bogies. The RBs have Commonwealths, which may not have the necessary gubbins. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2021 I was seriously considering in getting one in maroon as part of my Scottish Railway Preservation Society Mk1 excursion set but it’s fitted with B1’s, instead of B4’s which the prototype has. I’ve emailed Hornby to see if I can buy some B4’s as a spare part to put under it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, jools1959 said: I was seriously considering in getting one in maroon as part of my Scottish Railway Preservation Society Mk1 excursion set but it’s fitted with B1’s, instead of B4’s which the prototype has. I’ve emailed Hornby to see if I can buy some B4’s as a spare part to put under it. Good luck with spares. Try peters spares 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) I recently bought a green RB (S1765) and FO. The FO has a yellow cant rail stripe, but the RB out of the box does not have a red stripe, so I have just added them from some Fox Transfers red striping, which had to be cut in half to get the correct depth for the Mk 1. I was a little worried that the green base would show through the red, but the transfers actually have really good density, so all is well. Edited February 17, 2021 by SRman 5 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Hilux5972 said: Good luck with spares. Try peters spares Tried them and they don’t stock them, so I’ve sent a email to Hornby and still awaiting a reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Uncoupler Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Hi Everyone, The Hornby RB interior is a good effort, but what we've been given, is a buffet bar stuck in time, somewhere between the original build, and the later refurbished arrangement, the moulding is closer to the latter, but not quite right (but then it's not that obvious with the body on). A few pages back, I altered the bar inside my blue-grey example, to make it more accurate, as seen here: I had also bought one each of the green and maroon cars, they required the buffet counter to be backdated to the original layout. Here below is the green RB as dismantled, and below that, the corrected arrangement, the black door was actually for passenger use, providing access to and from, the outside passenger door. The black door would be removed during refurbishment in the 1970s, and replaced with storage space and a new location for the till, leaving the outside door for staff use only. Cheers, Brian. 5 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 That's most helpful. I suppose I will have to back-date my green one. Many thanks Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Following Kirby Uncoupler's refurbishment of a blue and grey RB there is a review of a blue and grey RB on page 306 of the April Railway Modeller. I had always found that the Railway Modeller was reluctant to criticise models but the reviewer does mention that the blue shade perhaps looks a bit too dark. This is something the purchaser would find difficult to rectify. The reviewer goes on to say that a token attempt has been made to represent the interior with a basic brown moulding which can be improved by detailing and painting and the addition of passenger figures. I also think that the addition of curtains would also be a huge improvement, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Can anyone confirm if the Commonwealth bogies off the RB can be used under any of Hornby's recent spec MK1coaches (without modifications)? I have some with BR1 bogies and want to try Commonwealths. Unless I am mistaken only the RB's so far have them fitted from the factory by Hornby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted April 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, sanspareil said: Can anyone confirm if the Commonwealth bogies off the RB can be used under any of Hornby's recent spec MK1coaches (without modifications)? I have some with BR1 bogies and want to try Commonwealths. Unless I am mistaken only the RB's so far have them fitted from the factory by Hornby? The Hogwarts coaches have the Commonwealth bogies. Can’t see why they wouldn’t be interchangeable. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: The Hogwarts coaches have the Commonwealth bogies. Can’t see why they wouldn’t be interchangeable. Thanks for the info, if they have them then you would think they are a standard interchangeable frame. It would be pretty crazy to make a frame just for the RB. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted April 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, sanspareil said: Can anyone confirm if the Commonwealth bogies off the RB can be used under any of Hornby's recent spec MK1coaches (without modifications)? I have some with BR1 bogies and want to try Commonwealths. Unless I am mistaken only the RB's so far have them fitted from the factory by Hornby? I think the commonwealth bogie first appeared with introduction of eastern region maroon FO and BFO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, sanspareil said: Can anyone confirm if the Commonwealth bogies off the RB can be used under any of Hornby's recent spec MK1coaches (without modifications)? I have some with BR1 bogies and want to try Commonwealths. Unless I am mistaken only the RB's so far have them fitted from the factory by Hornby? Completely interchangeable. I’ve several RB running on BR1s and have 16 MK1s on commonwealth, that had BR1s. (I’ve bought various H MK1 in B+G with commonwealths for the bogies) Most, but not all, of the B+G were on commonwealth. Edited April 29, 2021 by miles73128 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I wonder if anyone can help. I can’t find my book on Mk1 coaches and think I must have lent it to someone but can’t for the life of me remember who. So could anyone let me who which numbers were allocated to the Eastern Region. The model is the maroon version. Thanks in anticipation, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2021 It could just be the lighting, but could the roof “ribs” of the RB be more pronounced than on the earlier Mk1s (with lights version)? Attached photo with a glimpse of a BSK for ref: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Right Away said: It could just be the lighting, but could the roof “ribs” of the RB be more pronounced than on the earlier Mk1s (with lights version)? Attached photo with a glimpse of a BSK for ref: Yes they are. I've chosen to remove the roof ribs off all my mk1s Bachmann and Hornby. Respraying the roofs with Matt 67 rattle can. Transforms the appearance. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) On 03/07/2021 at 13:24, Erichill16 said: I wonder if anyone can help. I can’t find my book on Mk1 coaches and think I must have lent it to someone but can’t for the life of me remember who. So could anyone let me who which numbers were allocated to the Eastern Region. The model is the maroon version. Thanks in anticipation, Robert There was definitely a batch allocated to the Eastern Region. I'll try to get some numbers. Got them E1663-99. There were also a handful of SC deployments which could have worked south SC1658. -62 these deployments were circa 1960-2 Edited July 10, 2021 by davidw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, davidw said: There was definitely a batch allocated to the Eastern Region. I'll try to get some numbers. Thanks, still haven’t worked out who’s got my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Erichill16 said: Thanks, still haven’t worked out who’s got my book. Just added numbers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, davidw said: Yes they are. I've chosen to remove the roof ribs off all my mk1s Bachmann and Hornby. Respraying the roofs with Matt 67 rattle can. Transforms the appearance. Thank you for that, David; may I ask what method you used - emery cloth, craft knife etc. I’m a little uncertain of my ability to achieve the desired result without chopping off the odd ventilator, rain strip etc! Prototypical Mk1 roof ribs could just be discernible beneath the sheeting; this issue with the roofs of the model versions has been well aired before. It is generally when earlier B and the current H renditions are compared to the later Bachy coaches that the roof ribs can be bothersome. Hornby are to be congratulated on their pre-Nationalisation coaching stock, absolutely wonderful models with intricate detail being very accurately rendered. For the non-Railroad Mk1 coaches is it not high time for a fresh look at an upgrade of tooling for those roofs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Right Away said: Thank you for that, David; may I ask what method you used - emery cloth, craft knife etc. I’m a little uncertain of my ability to achieve the desired result without chopping off the odd ventilator, rain strip etc! Prototypical Mk1 roof ribs could just be discernible beneath the sheeting; this issue with the roofs of the model versions has been well aired before. It is generally when earlier B and the current H renditions are compared to the later Bachy coaches that the roof ribs can be bothersome. Hornby are to be congratulated on their pre-Nationalisation coaching stock, absolutely wonderful models with intricate detail being very accurately rendered. For the non-Railroad Mk1 coaches is it not high time for a fresh look at an upgrade of tooling for those roofs? I used blades and files. It's fairly straightforward 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 hours ago, davidw said: There was definitely a batch allocated to the Eastern Region. I'll try to get some numbers. Got them E1663-99. There were also a handful of SC deployments which could have worked south SC1658. -62 these deployments were circa 1960-2 Did some of those E s have Gresley Bogies? Sure one did. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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