Guest Jack Benson Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Any thoughts on typical 50s coal lorrys in 1:76, the Leyland Beaver from Base Toys seems a bit too large. Whilst this was our local coal merchants vehicle, a Thames Trader. Maybe an Austin K2 as an acceptable substitute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2020 Thats not a Thames Trader but an ET6 that was replaced by the Trader. Bonneted lorries were usually used as you could get three in the cab. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2020 Classix made a Thames like the above and an Austin K type, Base Toys also made a parrot nosed Dodge that was popular with coal merchants. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Both look perfect for the task after a repaint and detailing. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) A couple of ones from my layout based on Ipswich Co-Op prototypes..... DPV 566 on the left is one of the aforementioned Classix ones, but fitted with a replacement tipping body. BDX 748 on the right is one used for household deliveries and is a shortened Coopercraft (?) Bedford plastic kit. Of course, if you want something different, you could always scratchbuild one of these....... Edited April 4, 2020 by Johann Marsbar 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Johann Marsbar said: Of course, if you want something different, you could always scratchbuild one of these....... Or you could adapt a Pocketbond / Klassix milk float 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2020 It would normally be a flatbed for domestic deliveries with the bagged coal being stacked against the headboard. A few of the bigger coal companies such as Charringtons had a few hopper trucks with a device at the back that weighed and bagged the coal. Merit produced a pretty good pack of coal bags and Peco who took them over may still produce them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, Nick Holliday said: Or you could adapt a Pocketbond / Klassix milk float I did that with a Dinky Toy NCB milk float several years back! Problem is, the Smiths/NCB style one is only 30 cwt as far as I can remember, whereas the Morrisons lorry (as per APV 94) or their Smiths Counterparts, like this one... were various weights between between 2 and 3 Tons, so they are a bit on the small size. Nothing to stop you using modellers licence though........(and flatbed ones were used by some operators, but not for coal) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Try John Day Models, they have a Fordson ET6 coal lorry kit, plus Fordson 7v, Morris Commercial and various other suitable lorries in the range as well as figure sets with coalmen in various poses. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javlinfaw7 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) My dad worked for a coal merchant in the late fifties and early sixties ,he operated a Bedford OY, a Ford ET6 and two horses and carts ,another local smokeless fuel supplier operated a leyland tiger coach with the rear cutaway to form a platform Edited April 4, 2020 by javlinfaw7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB 3C no.2 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Two flickr galleries here new and old coal lorries, click on photos for more pics- Edited April 4, 2020 by JCB 3C no.2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Milestones Museum in Basingstoke has a 1934 Thornycroft Handy in Corralls livery: https://collections.hampshireculture.org.uk/object/lorry-handy-coal-lorry-type-befb4-2-ton-open-body-coal-lorry-corralls-livery-made It, or one like it, may have lasted until the '50s. However, having been in the heritage 'trade' as it were, this exact vehicle may not have been a Corralls wagon. Without the accession record its not possible to tell. Edited April 4, 2020 by petethemole 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2020 There's also the yard handling equipment:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/seacoaler/galleries/72157631680615551/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 There is also this Dennis at the Mid Suffolk Light Railway.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme02041645 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Our Road Transport Images range provides a wide range of parts including over 200 cabs to complete. The range also includes a coalman and load (L8) which can be added to any vehicle. The range can be viewed here: www.roadtransportimages.com 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissixties Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Here is one example I produced from RTI cab and Base Toy chassis/body with a few additions - A 1958 Bedford 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Bird Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Here's one I did earlier as the saying goes. Base Toys cab, Coopercraft flat bed and Merit coal sacks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) I came across this photo from 1980 yesterday whilst working my way through various photos that I took which had not been scanned into digital format. It's from a Pocket Instamatic print, so isn't that sharp, but I was surprised just how many bags of coal they had managed to load on that vehicle for household deliveries! Basically a double-decker load!! Edited February 7, 2021 by Johann Marsbar 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2021 Ipswich Co-op by the looks of it. They were unusual in using electric vehicles for coal delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Ipswich Co-op by the looks of it. They were unusual in using electric vehicles for coal delivery. Yes, HPV 155 (E168C), a Smiths 2.5 Ton flatbed that was new to them in December 1958. It remained in use for another couple of years after that photo was taken in January 1980. This is what it looked like when new... (awful photo of a laminated photo...) Edited February 7, 2021 by Johann Marsbar added photo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2021 The Ipswich Transport Museum has one on display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: The Ipswich Transport Museum has one on display. Yes, that's a 1951 Morrison, APV 94, which was illustrated further up in this thread. Restoration work is on hold at the moment due to the Lockdown, but it should be finished this year, hopefully. Another photo I scanned in yesterday was this one of its sister vehicle, APV 95, also taken in January 1980... I'll have to get the ITM one to pose in that location when it's mobile again! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) This Bedford was delivering coal* and smokeless fuel in East Dulwich, London, as recently as 2007. *I am not sure what was in the big sacks, given that inner London has been a smokefree zone since at least the 1960s. Edited February 7, 2021 by phil_sutters 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2021 A coal merchant in Dagenham operated a late 40's Austin K type and a similar aged Dodge into the 1990's. They were always immaculately turned out in a black over dark blue livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) This is our Fordson 7V, a combination of RTI and Classix, ideal for our ‘49-52 timeframe, it just needs mirrors. Considering the relative popularity of the early years of BR, there is a paucity of suitable smaller commercial vehicles however both Classix and Base (were they connected?) have done their best. There is a rather strong appeal to both the Austin K and Bedford O series, they seem to represent the period rather well as general trader’s vehicles. Edited February 8, 2021 by Jack Benson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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