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I wonder if anyone could tell me about the glass wagon in the background please?

 

Ive looked in Don Rowland’s book and done an online search but nothing yet. 
 

I think it would make an interesting model.

 

Photo taken at Huskisson goods yard Liverpool 1964.

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26 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said:

I wonder if anyone could tell me about the glass wagon in the background please?

 

Ive looked in Don Rowland’s book and done an online search but nothing yet. 
 

I think it would make an interesting model.

 

Photo taken at Huskisson goods yard Liverpool 1964.

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Assuming that the wagon number prefix letter is 'E' - which it appears to be - I would guess at a conversion of an ex-LNER Diagram 101 single bolster wagon, which was given the designation GLASS EA; (1 plank, non-vacuum fitted, 15'6" timber underframe, 8' WB).

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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The BR Special Wagons Register, 1964 shows the following former 'unfitted' Eastern group Glass Wagons still in service.

Glass EN :- E150651

Glass EA:- E187933, E188084, E188372, E188427, E188447,                E204846, E204954, E205019, E205223, E205341, E205364, E205377, E205593, E205706 , E228207, E228315, E228445, E228475, E228498, E228500, E228566, E228610, E228633, E228731, E228863, E228888, E240100, E240120, 

Glass EO:- E235247, E235248, E235249,

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The Glass EA wagons were obviously on their way out, and were in part replaced by the conversions of a dozen or so  BR 'Lowfit' wagons to Glass EA (fitted).

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Hope this helps ?

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Brian R

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M,

 

There's a rather small (70mm x 50mm) photo of E205223 in Model Railway News for August 1968 (vol. 44, No. 524).

 

The photo is by Don Rowland though, in one of a series of articles about wagons he wrote for MRN during 1967/68.

 

I take it by your reference to '... Don Rowland's book ...' you mean "Twilight of the Goods"?

 

There's no illustration in Tatlow 4B, but the text indicates that these were post-WW2 conversions of LNER single bolsters as noted by John above.

 

Regards

TMc

 

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The classification for Specially constructed wagons, Sept. 1959 has a list of 70 EAs. 15 are BR Lowfits and most of the remainer appear to be ex LNER as the photo (there are two numbers 435224 and 502156 are not immediately recogniseable. Strangely only one of the Lowfits has a VB against the number, whereas all BR Lowfits were built with VB.

 

Paul

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On 10/03/2020 at 01:40, cctransuk said:

 

Assuming that the wagon number prefix letter is 'E' - which it appears to be - I would guess at a conversion of an ex-LNER Diagram 101 single bolster wagon, which was given the designation GLASS EA; (1 plank, non-vacuum fitted, 15'6" timber underframe, 8' WB).

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

 

Slightly off-topic but 8' wheelbase seems very short, at least to me. Would that be the shortest wheelbase out there, for a 2 or 3 axle vehicle, or were there hauled stock with shorter wheelbases?

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6 hours ago, jwealleans said:

Not many in the twentieth century, but I have a feeling there were some single bolsters with a 7' wheelbase.

There were, in the shape of the GWR's single and twin bolster wagons (the J8 Macaw and J9 Mite), which had 7' wheelbases. Some of them even lasted into the BR era, although probably not for very long.

 

Jim

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