RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 Indeed, it is not just litter on trains. Why do we have to have volunteer gangs of litter pickers? A friend used to say that there is a ring of discarded McD packaging around the town which defines how long it takes to eat a Mac in a car. And in a wood near here there is a seat dedicated to McPickers (I can't quite remember the term but you get the gist). And I am afraid graffiti on trains is not just a British thing. But back to the debate which I was guilty of fomenting. My question was not whether platform doors improve safety but whether the cost is less than the benefit - not just the actual clot of the doors, but the ongoing maintenance and other costs all of which will lead to a consequent increase in fares (or taxes) which may drive people to other more dangerous forms of transport. One cannot look at these things in isolation, though I am afraid that many people do. To put it bluntly, there is not much point in saving one life a year on the railway if it results in ten extra deaths on the broads. Jonathan PS I agree that those ropes would just be a challenge to many British youngsters. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusty Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 6 hours ago, jjb1970 said: Indeed, that goes to the heart of some of the problems with trains (and indeed other public transport) in Britain, the users. It isn't confined to the UK. I recall a news item in one of the trade mags (probably RGI) back in the last millennium about a mainland european system that had just proudly unveiled new trains with supposedly user-proof seating &c – the yobbos' response was to swing from the luggage racks and kick the ceilings in. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 Graffiti is terrible on many mainland European railways, much worse than Britain. At one time I used to see a few European railways as better than our own, these days I really don't. Swiss railways are excellent and I still think we could learn a lot from the Swiss but these days they're a bit of an exception. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 The Swiss railways in the north of the country are terrible for graffiti, once you get out of the cities heading south then they are excellent. Pete 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30 On 29/08/2024 at 00:40, Pacific231G said: All those passengers getting nervous about going under the sea perhaps (or is it just our beer swilling habits?) Just the British having different habits from the French in that regard. The mileage rundifference in adding fresh 'tea bags' (which made the flush water look nicer and 'cleaned' it to some extent) puzzled SNCF who immediately put it down to les Anglais having weaker bladders than their own natives. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30 23 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: I remember the slam door stock, when people would pile off the train at stations, especially at peak hours, with most of them leaving the doors swinging open. If nobody was getting on at any particular door, that door remained open and the guard, or the sole member of platform staff, would have to rush down the platform to shut it. Talk about delayed departures ! The number of injuries (to people standing on station platforms) from open doors was quite considerable and sliding doors prevented that long before they became power operated. Power operated doors, with a traction interlock, have been a major advance in safety and in reducing dwell time. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 Just now, The Stationmaster said: Power operated doors, with a traction interlock, have been a major advance in safety and in reducing dwell time. Yes but as @david.hill64 pointed out, adding platform doors increases it again. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 1E BoY Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 (edited) 10 hours ago, jjb1970 said: itter free throughout the day. Similarly anti-social behaviour at night (let alone during the day) is so rare it stands out. I can criticise things about UK trains but I have every sympathy for train companies trying to keep on top of litter and damage to trains, dealing with graffiti, having to deal with anti-social behaviour to protect both their staff and passengers etc. Those are societal issues, not train company issues. When I used to commute using London Midland they did a very good job keeping the trains clean but it was an ongoing task and as soon as cleaners restored them back to good order litter, discarded newspapers, empty coffee cups etc would rapidly start accumulating. Some recent trips on MerseyRail have seen the new Class 777 units well presented with very clean interiors. Each train has a very visible conductor on board along with screens in each vehicle showing the CCTV recordings being made, a great deterrent to anyone thinking of misbehaving! Likewise stations are staffed (booking offices) and ticket inspectors are frequently seen getting on and off trains having checked peoples tickets providing a very visible and mobile presence. Stations and trains are clean. Many have well kept floral displays and some have information boards relating to local history. The one at Maghull tells the story of Frank Hornby. I sense the staff have great pride in their network. Edited August 30 by 1E BoY word units added 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 Meanwhile back on topic Sushila and Caroline have phoned home from their underground lairs. Caroline seems to have paused for maintenance, probably at one of the vent shafts. However Sushila dug over 300 metres in the last 17 days and is now at the 85% mark. At this rate she should arrive at Greenford in about 51 days so late October. Jamie 4 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) Colne Valley Viaduct. As of Friday morning. 999 segments installed with the final one left to place into position. Whether the final segment was installed today, or whether they're leaving it for some sort of ceremony, or PR event next week, I don't know. . Edited August 30 by Ron Ron Ron 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31 Cuemaster has videoed it with the final segment sitting just north of Dominique. Jamie 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 5 hours ago, jamie92208 said: Cuemaster has videoed it with the final segment sitting just north of Dominique. Jamie A rather elegant structure when you look at it, and a tantalising little gap! There is some brilliant engineering going on in this project Edited August 31 by 62613 punctuation; additional words 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, 62613 said: A rather elegant structure when you look at it, and a tantalising little gap! There is some brilliant engineering going on in this project I do hope that the solitary segment actually fits. It would be rather embarrassing if it didn't. However as you say a fabulous bit of engineering. Jamie 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted September 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1 This video shows a bridge under construction between the Chiltern North portal and Wendover Dean viaduct. Once complete the trackbed will hopefully appear quickly. Jamie 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Euston HS2 station site...very little activity...... 1 6 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted September 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3 A nice little video about the completion of a viaduct, no not the CVV. Jamie 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Construction work at the northern corner of the Delta Junction, at Water Orton. . 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 The final piece of the 2 mile long jigsaw..... . 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted September 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5 Network Raihave now completed the Track Slew at Saltleylto allow the viaduct piers to be built to access Curzon Street from Washwood Heath. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/N8vk3vsY96BDUESi/ Jamie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 The final segment of the Colne Valley Viaduct was installed with a PR event, scheduled for today. It could have been done last Friday, but they clearly held fire for today's pre-planned occasion. . 12 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted September 6 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6 https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/hs2-state-of-the-art-worst-all-worlds-3260639?utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=i_eveningheadlines 2024-09-05&utm_term=editorial_evening_newsletter 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 HS2 Ltd PR video...... . 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted September 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7 Glad to see that I'm not the only one to get gaps in the baseboards and now there's a prototype for it!! Don't need a hat or coat here it's a hot and humid day in Vienna, or the door! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9 A little good news: Green Party reverses its opposition to building HS2 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/green-party-hs2-manchester-greens-birmingham-b2609216.html Jonathan 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 35 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Green Party reverses its opposition to building HS2 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/green-party-hs2-manchester-greens-birmingham-b2609216.html But why? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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