jonhall Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Legend said: No . I think Rails have it at £19.75 rrp . Remember compared to the Bachmann one this is a small crane, a bit like the old Tri-ang one in size . The two cranes are nothing like the same size - the steam crane is a very different beast, even though the capacity isn't all that different. Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGair Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 "It is a Mistake from what i have been told it will be more likely to be around £40.00 " I think that would be more like it. Even at that price its good value. Thanks Mick for the model photos too. Mark 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MEGair said: "It is a Mistake from what i have been told it will be more likely to be around £40.00 " I think that would be more like it. Even at that price its good value. Thanks Mick for the model photos too. Mark Yes, its impossible to believe that its that. The RRP is less than what Hornby were asking for the old Triang crane when they last issued it a few years ago! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Coach bogie said: No. Still not on the market. Last time I enquired it had switched from etch to 3D imaging. My D&S is still on the shelf with Brassmasters runner wagon awaiting the GWR conversion. Mike Wiltshire Thanks for that, will drop them a message expressing interest. Is there any indication exactly what the conversion kit will include? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post micklner Posted January 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2020 My D&S 4mm version with the D&S Sunderland Breakdown train. Crane Runner is a modified Plate wagon and scratch Crane support, th D&S kit also does not come with a Crane Runner. Based on photos in the original Tatlow LNER Wagons book. 19 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 17 hours ago, mozzer models said: It is a Mistake from what i have been told it will be more likely to be around £40.00 Which, lets face it, is still a good price for what you are getting. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, 57xx said: Which, lets face it, is still a good price for what you are getting. Depending on what you get! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, truffy said: Depending on what you get! True, but you never know, they might buck past form and pull the rabbit from the hat on this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, truffy said: Depending on what you get! If the steam crane is anything like as good as the railgun, which I have no doubt will be the case, this will be another milestone for OR. Edited January 22, 2020 by Black 5 Bear Omission. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, 57xx said: True, but you never know, they might buck past form and pull the rabbit from the hat on this. Absolutely. But, by a similar token, I'll hold back from any pre-order and wait to see what's delivered (and whether it can be transposed to the SR). Just now, Black 5 Bear said: If the steam crane is anything like as good as the railgun, which I have no doubt will be the case this will be another milestone for OR. I'll happily take your word for that. The railgun was of no interest to me, so I didn't really follow it much. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) A few cranes from Flickr, none exactly like the picture Oxford have used. All these pictures were taken in the mid 60s so they lasted well into the BR diesel era. Edited January 22, 2020 by bubbles2 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yes please! I've got a D&S example that needs total reconstruction really but the chains put me off. Now then, how did the GC paint their cranes.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said: If the steam crane is anything like as good as the railgun, which I have no doubt will be the case, this will be another milestone for OR. The railgun was quite a nice toy, very obviously built down to a price, to meet even the £40 mark, so will the crane be. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jonhall said: The railgun was quite a nice toy, very obviously built down to a price, to meet even the £40 mark, so will the crane be. Jon I question your label of a toy because it was quite obviously much more of a scale model than that. I've seen various products from other well known manufacturers that can't hold a candle to this model. As for a £40 price you quote, realistically the RRP was somewhere around £60. This was still very much a bargain in today's market. The few that I've seen left for sale at some outlets are closer to that mark. I've got a feeling that we will again be pleasantly surprised both on quality and cost. Edited January 22, 2020 by Black 5 Bear Omission. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 BR version pre ordered. Now to decide what matching truck would be appropriate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doktorstamp Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Would my assumption that some of these may have made it into preservation be wide of the mark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, doktorstamp said: Would my assumption that some of these may have made it into preservation be wide of the mark? One I think? In Ireland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Certainly one in Ireland. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Quote Would my assumption that some of these may have made it into preservation be wide of the mark Isn't there one at the NRM at York? Think the miniature railway encircles it, out in the grounds? Just looked it up on the NRM Collections site- looks similar, but different manufacturer, the Craven. Apologies, I was busy trying to stop my 6-year old foster-daughter falling off the miniature train whilst she was waving to someone... Edited January 22, 2020 by Ben B Actually researched what I was saying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, bubbles2 said: A few cranes from Flickr, none exactly like the picture Oxford have used. All these pictures were taken in the mid 60s so they lasted well into the BR diesel era. The first photo seems to show one of the second Midland batch of 1899; that's the Midland design of jib match truck. Has it gained a vacuum pipe? (But not vac brakes.) The Gloucester crane is a different type: 20 tons capacity and with a different style of jib; the LT crane is a different type again. 36 minutes ago, Zunnan said: Certainly one in Ireland. Is that one ex-Great Northern? In his second article on the Midland cranes, @Dave Hunt says that the crane supplied to the LT&SR, works No. 2933, was the only one supplied to mainland Britain to have the lattice bracing across the top and bottom of the jib; the others had plating with oval holes. He says that the lattice type was supplied to the Great Northern and to overseas customers [D. Hunt, Midland Record Vol. 6, pp 4-17]. Edited January 22, 2020 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 foolishly I haven't got around to purchasing any of he Tatlow volumes on cranes. But I would assume oxford have not covered all variants of this crane - can anyone advise if any of these cranes were present on the southern pre-nationalization? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jack P said: any of these cranes were present on the southern pre-nationalization? LBSC x 2 SER x 1 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: LBSC x 2 SER x 1 Oooh, any of the current versions suitable for a repaint? or maybe with some minor modification? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jack P said: Oooh, any of the current versions suitable for a repaint? or maybe with some minor modification? Dunno, I'm a N.E.R. man. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvrnut Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Does anyone know which of the four cranes that Oxford Rail are producing would be the most suitable for LSWR / SR ? Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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