Heljan class 28

[Steve K]

Is that some sort of Wonderloaf servicing kit in the background, too?

It's an automatic weathering machine, with slots to do 2 Co-Bos at once.

[dmustu]

It's an automatic weathering machine, with slots to do 2 Co-Bos at once.

 

 

Does it have a DMU setting? Might have to get one if it does!

[Guest 838rapid]

Cheers guys.lol

 

Yeah i have got a dodgy camera.

 

It looks different.

 

Shall try and get a few better pics,just got home from work.

 

The body is metal,and it has quite modern motors inside it,one on each bogie.

 

Just like the real thing it seems toi like sitting in sidings

[Martin_R]

Just noticed Hattons Class 28 info has been updated - Item 2800 D5700 in Full BR Green now shown with MODIFIED windows - so NOT as delivered with wrap round windows!

 

I thought it was to good to be true.

[SRman]

That Railfreight Co-Bo looks quite good. I wonder if, with its metal body and modern motor bogies, it may have been bult from a Dave Alexander kit?

[Guest 838rapid]

Have discovered the "macro" button.

 

Whoops

 

Here are some more pictures,hopefully it might give a clue as to what the base model is.

 

The body is thin metal.and the battery box is made of shaped metal sections

[RedgateModels]

looks like An Alexander bogie to me, old style with a DS-10 if my eyes don't deceive me. That's why it won' t run

 

See my thread on the old forum where I built an Alexander 15 here

[Guest 838rapid]

Cheers for that Ian.

 

Off to the scrap box for this one then....

 

[ScRSG]

Definitely a Dave Alexander kit, I have a couple of these and they are the only kits I have built that have defied all attempts to get them to run properly, latest moderately successful attempt involvs two motor bogies. Seems to me to be a shame to put completely fictitious liveries on these, but to each his own....

[D605Eagle]

Just noticed Hattons Class 28 info has been updated - Item 2800 D5700 in Full BR Green now shown with MODIFIED windows - so NOT as delivered with wrap round windows!

 

I thought it was to good to be true.

I spoke to the guys from Hattons and Heljan last saturday and they said it WAS having wrap rounds, so this is quite curious indeed....

[CraigZ]

I spoke to the guys from Hattons and Heljan last saturday and they said it WAS having wrap rounds, so this is quite curious indeed....

 

http://www.ehattons.com/StockDetail.aspx?SID=33375 - makes it pretty clear.

 

Now to decide...cancel order or not?

[Gwiwer]

It's an automatic weathering machine, with slots to do 2 Co-Bos at once.

 

 

Is that a kettle I see in the background? I realise green Co-Bos ran alongside such things but surely not the RF grey ones?

[Bob-65b]

Is that a kettle I see in the background? I realise green Co-Bos ran alongside such things but surely not the RF grey ones?

 

 

I'm glad to see that a few kettles were also retained in service when these pictures were taken, presumably around Carnfroth.

 

EDIT: is that some sort of Wonderloaf servicing kit in the background, too?

[Bert Cheese]

http://www.ehattons.com/StockDetail.aspx?SID=33375 - makes it pretty clear.

 

Now to decide...cancel order or not?

 

No, not yet anyway........

I was chatting to Elvis Presley near Box tunnel the other day, and he told me that the first 350 will have wrap round windows after all.

The lack of proper glass story is apparently some sort of ruse by Hattons because the pre-orders for D5700 have been massively over subscribed by legions of Metrovick fans. B)

[Pete Piszczek]

http://www.ehattons.....aspx?SID=33375 - makes it pretty clear.

 

Now to decide...cancel order or not?

 

 

 

I'm actually a bit relieved by the lack of wrap around windows on the earliest models.

 

The logical way (i.e. cheapest) to do this would have been to have the body molding with the wrap around. The glass insert would be wrap around for the original. The later variants with the flat front windows would have the rounded "plug" molded as part of the window insert. Just paint the outer edge of the glass plug with the body color. That might have left a seam on the models with the modified windows.

 

 

Of course, that sort of shows my hand in regards to which wonder loaves I ordered...

[Downendian]

I'm glad to see that a few kettles were also retained in service when these pictures were taken, presumably around Carnfroth.

 

EDIT: is that some sort of Wonderloaf servicing kit in the background, too?

 

 

Ha so Mr Chard- is Carnfroth the home depot for all wishlisted locomotive classes? ?

['CHARD]

Indeed it is, Carnfroth (code 36DD, page 3 of the current Locoshed) is presently heaving under its allocation of Blue Pullmans, NBL Class 21 and 29s, seventeen pre-groping ScR tender engines, TransPennine DMUs, 120s, Highland 24s with working headlamps from actual Morris Minors, Gloucester twins, ready-to-plant lattice post signals with lights and sound, and DCC smutty innuendo

[Ian J.]

You forgot it has track with perfectly sized and spaced sleepers even though the gauge is a bit narrow...

['CHARD]

Oh indeed it does, and ready-to-knit OHLE (R-T-K)

[rs4]

I wonder if Hattons or Heljan will be upgrading the 28 at the NRM ?

 

Spotted last week [forgive if this has been posted before and I've missed it...]

 

Regards

 

Nick

[00ERmissus]

Just noticed Hattons Class 28 info has been updated - Item 2800 D5700 in Full BR Green now shown with MODIFIED windows - so NOT as delivered with wrap round windows!

 

I thought it was to good to be true.

 

A little bit miffed as I specifically placed my order after querying this issue with Hattons who assured me the early model would have the original cab windows, which I also thought was too good to be true, given the extra cost that would be incurred in producing both versions. The web site now clearly states D5700 will have the modified (later) windows and their original(?) press release also says the same. However, well done Hattons for commissioning the model, I'm sure it will be a success and I'll keep my eye on the site just in case but in the meantime someone else can have my green one.

[orcadian]

00ERMissus, have you seen post #118 in this thread? It's being suggested that D5700 with wrap-round windows is already sold out in pre-orders. Hattons did say that this one would only be 350, with a larger number available for the other versions. So even if there will be a small batch of 'curved', now we can only order 'flat fronts'. Presumably the slightly higher price for D5700 may well reflect the additional costs involved in making it in a different form from the others. (I know, I should have learnt how to quote a post before chipping in here, but hope this helps!)

 

Edit - just re-read the news item on p. 10 of Hornby Mag 37 - July 2010 - the higher prices are for the weathered ones. There is room for confusion - the news item says D5700 in BR green as delivered. Does this mean that is has the livery in which it was delivered, or the structural form? Hattons seem to have given two different opinions on this one!

 

 

Richard

Edited June 10, 2010 by orcadian

[00ERmissus]

00ERMissus, have you seen post #118 in this thread? It's being suggested that D5700 with wrap-round windows is already sold out in pre-orders. Hattons did say that this one would only be 350, with a larger number available for the other versions. So even if there will be a small batch of 'curved', now we can only order 'flat fronts'. Presumably the slightly higher price for D5700 may well reflect the additional costs involved in making it in a different form from the others. (I know, I should have learnt how to quote a post before chipping in here, but hope this helps!)

 

Edit - just re-read the news item on p. 10 of Hornby Mag 37 - July 2010 - the higher prices are for the weathered ones. There is room for confusion - the news item says D5700 in BR green as delivered. Does this mean that is has the livery in which it was delivered, or the structural form? Hattons seem to have given two different opinions on this one!

 

 

Richard

 

You’re right this is confusing and thanks for your comments. However, I can only go by what is stated on the order that I made online with Hattons - the description for which they have now amended to read: Class 28 Co-Bo Diesel D5700 Full BR Green - with modified windows (Due First Quarter 2011).

 

The three offending words were not there when I placed the order as it then stated ‘as delivered with wrapround windows.’ It seems they’ve now been unwrapped! I’d be interested to know if anyone has reserved this version online and not had theirs amended. Looks like another phone call to Liverpool. Very confusing - time for a pint of Old & Filthy, me thinks!!!

[00ERmissus]

To wraparound or not to wraparound?

 

Further to the saga of the Hejan 28, this is what I have received from Hattons this afternoon in writing:

 

 

Thank you very much for your enquiry. In answer to your question, all of our Class 28's will now have "flat" windows. It is the case that originally we were going to have curved windows but this has now changed so that all have flat windows. Therefore, there will be no Class 28's being produced with curved windows. I hope this answers your question. If you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

.........

 

So, end of story?

[Dave777]

Yeah, I think so.

 

Shame, I like the wraparound look better, but we're getting an up-to-date Class 28 so that's good.

 

And what's the betting that someone will produce some wraparound windows for it sooner or later? Not exactly a drop in replacement as it will involve some hacking about, but plenty of after-market mods require that anyway.