banburysaint Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Chrisr40 said: Hi, I fitted mine with Hornby chip by ignoring the picture in the booklet. It just fits if you insert the socket as far in to the hole at the bottom of the barrel as it will go and then put the chip horizontally into the top half of the barrel. You have to jiggle the wires a bit but it does go...it isn't for the faint hearted though. Good luck. Chris Thank you for the advice and have now managed to do it with your guidance. I agree its not for the faint hearted! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Denbridge said: Actually in most parts they are 1979/80 replicas for Rocket 150 using the LMS ones as a basis for rebuilds. Ah, that stirs the mud. There were three firsts and three seconds built by the LMS in 1930, usually seen then with Lion. Unfortunately in that photo, the names can't be made out but they certainly including Traveller and Huskinson. As far as I can work out, the NRM still has these in its collection, along with one of the seconds. Where are / what became of the other three 1930 carriages? And were there additional replicas built in 1979/80? If so, where are they? Edited July 1, 2020 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Ah, that stirs the mud. There were three firsts and three seconds built by the LMS in 1930, usually seen then with Lion. Unfortunately in that photo, the names can't be made out but certainly including Traveller and Huskinson. As far as I can work out, the NRM still has these in its collection, along with one of the seconds. Where are / what became of the other three 1930 carriages. And were there additional replicas built in 1979/80? If so, where are they? I think the others are in the Liverpool museum storage facility. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Ah, that stirs the mud. There were three firsts and three seconds built by the LMS in 1930, usually seen then with Lion. Unfortunately in that photo, the names can't be made out but certainly including Traveller and Huskinson. As far as I can work out, the NRM still has these in its collection, along with one of the seconds. Where are / what became of the other three 1930 carriages. And were there additional replicas built in 1979/80? If so, where are they? My understanding is that the 2 open carriages in the NRM collection were built using the LMS replicas wbich were in poor condition. Apologies if my post was unclear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Denbridge said: My understanding is that the 2 open carriages in the NRM collection were built using the LMS replicas wbich were in poor condition. Apologies if my post was unclear. Understood - my knowledge of the subject is enlarged, so many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 57 minutes ago, Chrisr40 said: Any idea why we get 4 long and 2 short couplings though ? I have used 3 of the long ones which is likely wrong. Chris I run mine with a short coupling off the tender and the longer ones between the coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pacific231G said: does anyone know if the actual Rocket as displayed in the Science Museum (is it still there?) no it’s moved to York for at least ten years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-49825385 Quote is in the configuration it operated in on the L&M or was it modified again. it’s basically in as close to the condition it finished service in as they can ascertain so similar to its final condition on the L&M but a few detail differences from repairs. Quote I assume that when it ran over poor Mr. Huskisson on the railway's opening day the cylinders were already horizontal? No they weren’t lowered until a year after that when it was rebuilt to match the ‘Rocket.2’ class. “Rudititanic posted As an aside, it was after another serious accident in 1831 that she was modified into a pseudo-Northumbrian class with lowered cylinders as now preserved.” Edited July 1, 2020 by PaulRhB 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron3820 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 ordered through Hattons for eventual delivery down under. I did have 4 RoS ones ordered but that’s obviously out of the question now. excellent values the Hornby model it, works out at $25AUD after VAT is taken away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron3820 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 The long coupling chains are for the coaches, the short one goes from the tender to the first coach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Chrisr40 said: Any idea why we get 4 long and 2 short couplings though ? I have used 3 of the long ones which is likely wrong. Chris It looks like the short one is for tender to carriage, and the longer ones are for between the carriages which need a little more clearance with their buffers. In fairness though, if it works, it's not a massive issue! Cheers J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Think I've spotted the fault with mine, the gear on the axle was misaligned. Have nudged it into place and will give it another test run later today. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Mine came yesterday, just in time for the 3rd class coach to be ordered. Quite rare to see a terrier dwarf a coach or a tender engine... I went for the non special set to avoid duplicating coach names. Though the two sets (1980s vs 2020s) are like comparing chalk and cheese! She will only pull the 3 coaches if the layout is dead flat. She slipped a bit on 1/150 inclines. Edited July 2, 2020 by JSpencer 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2020 well i can't believe my luck. i spoke to kernow who said i could return my faulty loco for a refund. i spoke with my local shop who had a couple left, so i popped over at lunch. I tested it on his test track and tootled home. i've just gone to try it on dcc and nothing, tried a few different chips, still nothing. flipped over the loco and one of the wires has come away, not sure when this happened, does dc running require all wires from the dcc socket to be in tact? i really dont want to return another one, i'd rather solder the wire back on but i've no idea where it has come from, i can't see an unused solder pad etc. anybody have a pic of the underside of the tender? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, jonnyuk said: well i can't believe my luck. i spoke to kernow who said i could return my faulty loco for a refund. i spoke with my local shop who had a couple left, so i popped over at lunch. I tested it on his test track and tootled home. i've just gone to try it on dcc and nothing, tried a few different chips, still nothing. flipped over the loco and one of the wires has come away, not sure when this happened, does dc running require all wires from the dcc socket to be in tact? i really dont want to return another one, i'd rather solder the wire back on but i've no idea where it has come from, i can't see an unused solder pad etc. anybody have a pic of the underside of the tender? thanks You need 4 wires for basic motor control (e.g. no lights etc.), the plug connects the two wires from the track to the two wires to the motor, all a decoder does is go between the track and motor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, JSpencer said: She will only pull the 3 coaches if the layout is dead flat. She slipped a bit on 1/150 inclines. What you have to remember is that Rocket was built to the Rainhill Trials rules and weighed 4.25 tons (not including the tender). It had to draw a weight of three times the weight of the engine, the tender, its fuel and water was part of the hauled weight. So the weight the locomotive pulled for the trial was 12.5 tons in all. Given that, Rocket is doing very well to pull the three coaches! (None of the Rainhill entrants had more than 4 carrying wheels, and thus weighed no more than 4.5 tons, so none were pulling more than 13.5 tons) Edited July 2, 2020 by Hroth Rephrasing for clarity. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, melmerby said: You need 4 wires for basic motor control (e.g. no lights etc.), the plug connects the two wires from the track to the two wires to the motor, all a decoder does is go between the track and motor thats what i thought, i must of broke the wire putting it back in or taking out of the packaging again.....can't see to find a wiring diagram for under the tender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jonnyuk said: thats what i thought, i must of broke the wire putting it back in or taking out of the packaging again.....can't see to find a wiring diagram for under the tender Can't help with the wiring layout as I haven't bought a "Rocket" myself. There maybe suppression components as well, which could complicate the wiring slightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2020 found an under side pic in this thread history, time to crack out the soldering iron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Going to have to ring Gaugemaster tomorrow as mine is still not turning its wheels. Think one of the wires disconnected getting it back into its packaging as well; really those wires are not brillant and either some plug in arrangement or a permanently coupled tender would have been a better option IMO. Did spend some time pondering how you get the body off but thinking on how the Triang one went together as you cannot easily, its seems, remove the connecting rod from the wheel I suspect it a case of removing the cylinders from the body and then undoing the slotted head bolt on the underside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2020 Derails still have some of the new third class to preorder: https://www.derails.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=R40141&product_id=3195 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUCKOO LINE Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Interesting Rails are selling new R3809 on their ebay website for£295 ! I thought they sold all of theirs earlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, CUCKOO LINE said: Interesting Rails are selling new R3809 on their ebay website for£295 ! I thought they sold all of theirs earlier Could be a 2nd hand model they've had as a trade in/bought in collection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted July 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Could be a 2nd hand model they've had as a trade in/bought in collection? Doesn't look like it is second hand as they had four to sell and now have two left! Also they say they are NEW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I guess that they could be spares that they had set aside in case they had any faulty returns. If these returns didn't materialise, they can now sell them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Or they are faulty returns which have been repaired by Hornby. With regard to mine Gaugemaster are going to send it to Hornby for repair once I have sent it back to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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