billbedford Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 The first ones were built in 1886, so Iwould expect them all to have been built of steel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 The first ones were built in 1886, and by that time most of the shipbuilding industry had converted from wrought iron to steel. So steel sheet and sections were readily available and in all probability cheaper than wrought iron. It's likely in this context that "iron" is a colloquialism meaning "not wooden" rather than signifying any particular form of ferrous metal. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23 8 hours ago, billbedford said: The first ones were built in 1886, and by that time most of the shipbuilding industry had converted from wrought iron to steel. So steel sheet and sections were readily available and in all probability cheaper than wrought iron. It's likely in this context that "iron" is a colloquialism meaning "not wooden" rather than signifying any particular form of ferrous metal. The first Tay Bridge, built in the mid-1870s, was of cast and wrought iron; the Forth Bridge, built in the late 1880s, was of steel - so that nicely dates the transition. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 That makes perfect sense. I have never really considered whether Iron minks were actually iron or not it is a very good observation, so very much now plausible for 'oil canning' to be part of the Mink F even if only a little. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24 Looking through All About..., there is no mention of a change from iron to steel for GWR iron minks; the side and end panels are stated to have been ⅛" iron sheet. However, the wagons built for Spillers by Harrison & Camm in 1906/7 are stated to have been steel bodied, the Barry Railway vehicles built by G.R. Turner in 1904/5 are described as 'iron and steel' on Fox's patent pressed steel underframes, and the Rhymney Railway ones built by Cravens in 1912 were all-steel. From which one concludes that by the first decade of the 20th century, the wagon-building trade was happy working with steel - and presumably using it for the 'ironwork' of wooden wagons - whereas in the 1890s, the Swindon Carriage & Wagon Works was still set up to work with wrought iron. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 OK tgank you everyone. With everything considered I am going for a 'much used and unloved' look. My understanding is these minks ran mainly at night on fast freight, so I am thinking appearance is not that important. May have got carried away though. Don't think it will match most of my stock but well, if not, I guess the later Western and early BR boys may snap it up. Just waiting now for the paints and washes to fully harden before applying some rusting solution to the rusty areas. Probably not all of them though, that should add a little depth, maybe. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 (edited) I couldn't resist putting a few pics together of models I have recently purchased from Chuffinghell. Especially as it will still be some rime before I have anything to run on. It has been a pleasure putting this little lot together. There are a few more Aero and Engineering wagons to add but the idea us there. Oh and I have some transfers from CCT to finally complete the T12 chaired sleeper wagons, only took me 6 years to order them 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Edited June 24 by Bluemonkey presents.... 7 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted yesterday at 08:57 Author Share Posted yesterday at 08:57 Been a tough week for modelling what with the heat but some progress on the Mink F sees it ready for a liquor coat and storage. Weathering and rusting now complete. Maybe a little too much but we'll It'd done now and no taking it off. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted yesterday at 10:54 RMweb Gold Share Posted yesterday at 10:54 That looks really good imho. What do you use for the rust texture? (You may have said earlier in the thread but, if asked to describe myself in three words, my answer would be - lazy!) 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted yesterday at 12:03 Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:03 1 hour ago, Graham T said: That looks really good imho. What do you use for the rust texture? (You may have said earlier in the thread but, if asked to describe myself in three words, my answer would be - lazy!) I used for the base colour Mig 0913 Red Brown Vase and Mig 0043 Shadow rust, these are from the Tools colors box set I have. I followed this with a light covering of Deluxe Materials scenic rust. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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