RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, EddieB said: Utterly confusing. To me it seems like one of the minnows is in danger of beating the big boy constructors and rather than seeing it as a competitive challenge they’re finding any excuse to get at them. My sympathies are with Racing Point, who - fairly or not - have acted within the regulations. That was silly. Looks like protectionism. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, MJI said: As this was at Silverstone I was surprised there was no live coverage. But saw in news the results. I could see Formula E taking over as most watched motor sport. Only a Home GP can be Live under the Sky rules, that was last week, this week it was classed as a 70th Anniversary event. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Only a Home GP can be Live under the Sky rules, that was last week, this week it was classed as a 70th Anniversary event. Yeah they tripped over that a couple of times in the commentary too, calling it the British then quickly correcting themselves to 70th. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: Just proves that a mistake can be made by anyone such as Mercedes over tyres. I don't think it was a "mistake" as such, more that they were forced into a setup by Pirelli trying to stop their tyres falling apart and that tyre setup did not suit their car design/philosophy. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I'm not a gambler by any means (although I did share a flat with a casino manager for nearly 10 years!) but I was quite surprised a few days ago to see an advert for William Hill offering 20-1 on any British driver finishing on the podium, which with Lewis's form seemed far too long an odd. 3/4 of the way through the race, I was beginning to think perhaps they were right after all and they had access to insider information.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 hours ago, MJI said: I could see Formula E taking over as most watched motor sport. I just don't understand that, I accidentally tuned into a FE race yesterday and after hearing rave reviews by some of you I stuck with it for quite a long time... Before I fell asleep... 1 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 If Spain gets cancelled, it'll be a dead cert that Belgium will be, it's worse over there than in Spain, though it's not so good here in the UK but they managed ok! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hobby said: I just don't understand that, I accidentally tuned into a FE race yesterday and after hearing rave reviews by some of you I stuck with it for quite a long time... Before I fell asleep... May just as well watch F1 with the sound off, haha. 1 1 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 hours ago, MJI said: I could see Formula E taking over as most watched motor sport. God help us !! Muliti coloured Milk Floats = Nooooooooooooooooo!!! perhaps they could put a bit of plastic between the wheel spokes so they make some kind of noise !! 2 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Hobby said: If Spain gets cancelled, it'll be a dead cert that Belgium will be, it's worse over there than in Spain, though it's not so good here in the UK but they managed ok! We're not as bad as Spain or Belgium, and with Spain the problem area is only a mile or two from the Circuit. Spa may be safer as it's in the middle of nowhere. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Spa may be safer as it's in the middle of nowhere. Lovely undulating wooded countryside, lovely circuit, even these days - and so well-connected to a motorway. Much my favourite, not least because so many of the surrounding roads have armco from when they were part of the circuit. You drive along knowing that Moss and Fangio etc have also driven here, albeit before the armco! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hobby said: If Spain gets cancelled, it'll be a dead cert that Belgium will be, it's worse over there than in Spain, though it's not so good here in the UK but they managed ok! Taking Spain as a whole, rates may be lower than in Belgium. But is that true of the region where the Spanish GP takes place? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Hobby said: I just don't understand that, I accidentally tuned into a FE race yesterday and after hearing rave reviews by some of you I stuck with it for quite a long time... Before I fell asleep... Well when there are no live broadcasts of one sport a televised sport of similar type can get more viewers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, Hobby said: I just don't understand that, I accidentally tuned into a FE race yesterday and after hearing rave reviews by some of you I stuck with it for quite a long time... Before I fell asleep... I watched it once, never again, was way too dull. I was waiting for the noise of chinking milk bottles. 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2020 The first official world speed record was held by an electric car. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, 57xx said: I watched it once, never again, was way too dull. I was waiting for the noise of chinking milk bottles. Not only that, but why do they have to run around a rat maze? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, 57xx said: I watched it once, never again, was way too dull. I was waiting for the noise of chinking milk bottles. I have seen some good races, mid 80s BTCC was always exciting. But the Hungarian GP in 1997 was edge of seat stuff. (10/08/1997). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: ...Spa may be safer as it's in the middle of nowhere. That's a truth in so, so, many ways... 1 hour ago, 57xx said: I watched it (Fe) once, never again, was way too dull. I was waiting for the noise of chinking milk bottles. Indeed, it needs to be rethought for what it is purposed to achieve in tech development terms. To return to something I banged on about earlier: we now have reliable cars for practical transport purposes: all that IC engine motor racing tech fed into the industry, and road cars that now have extraordinary performance are freely available. Consider a large engine / sport version of a regular production family hatchback entered in the final Mille Miglia - still within living memory - and it would be competitive: and what's more the tyres wouldn't wear out, and the driver would be in air-conditioned comfort throughout and sat navving his way around the course. Maybe there is even an electric car that could compete, but it would still have a driver... An electric formula should be pushing at the limits of the very obvious next step, which is autonomous vehicles that do not require a driver. The courses should incorporate all the most frequent tricky fixed features that have been proven to defeat autonomous vehicles, and be raced on without any prior course information; with 'random' events that defeat autonomous vehicle systems inserted in the course of the race. (It's ultimately no good allowing engineers to test their progress, the real test is 'stupid stuff' they won't consider as worthwhile.) As any obstacle or event is overcome by superior systems, that goes into all the competing vehicles, and by thrashing away at this, speedier evolution of truly reliable autonomous vehicles is achieved. Could this be made entertaining enough for spectators to pay? If there are sufficient spectacular incidents - remember nobody gets hurt - I think it is possible. Sort of robot wars on steroids. Probably a different crowd from the IC motor sport following. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 hours ago, 57xx said: I don't think it was a "mistake" as such, more that they were forced into a setup by Pirelli trying to stop their tyres falling apart and that tyre setup did not suit their car design/philosophy. I agree that is was not a mistake. It has often been the case that the fastest car pushes the tyres harder & one which is a little kinder on tyres will win a few GP but will not always be the best over a season. The cars are designed for a range of tracks from the twisty slow corners of Monaco to the super high speed Monza. The fastest car over the entire season will rarely be the best at every single circuit. Only in 1 season (1988?) when Prost & Senna were both at McLaren have ween seen a car completely dominate. We have seen 5 GP this year & the gentler car has won 1. Mercedes appears to be better when running on harder tyres. I do feel that the compounds were too soft for the circuit. It is one of the roughest on tyres & they used the hardest (& therefore most suitable) the first week. Pirelli suggested these because they felt they were the most suitable. Using a different set of tyres was intended to produce a different race & it did just that. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 hours ago, EddieB said: After Vettel’s public outburst on the team radio, Ferrari ought to decide between if he has a valid grievance and sort out the problem or that he hasn’t and dismiss him. https://www.crash.net/f1/news/941831/1/vettel-explains-you-ve-messed-f1-radio-message I can see 2 sides with this. Vettel (& Alonso before him) were duped by Ferrari into believing they would provide a championship winning car. Who knows what is actually said within the team? Alonso seemed pretty fed up when he re-signed for McLaren & made a mention about empty promises. Some of the media talk up Ferrari as regular title winners so much I expect people actually believe it. History says otherwise. Ferrari drivers are paid a lot of money though, so you cannot deny that incentive. If Vettel really believed he would become a world champion in a Ferrari & feels aggrieved that this never happened then more fool him. Things do not always work as planned/hoped & F1 sport is competitve. Regarding his contract, a 2/3/4 year contract is just that. Neither party is obliged to continue with another or even discuss it. If they want to walk away, then they are free to do so. Any description of this being a sacking is rubbish. If he gets replaced mid-season, then it would be a sacking. It is no different to Virgin trains buying their Pendolino fleet from Fiat/Alsthom. Do Fiat/Alsthom expect the next units to a newer spec to automatically be bought from them? They would expect to tender like everyone else...but if their units had performed particularly well, they may feel it gives them an advantage. We would not talk about them being 'sacked' from the next order. Back to Ferrari.If 1 driver was leaving at the end of the season, if you had to chose 1 over the other, who would you choose? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Mr Angry Toto. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29620160/mercedes-boss-wolff-accuses-f1-rivals-being-two-faced 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Another not happy Boss, this time at Ferrari. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29631467/ferrari-says-spin-not-strategy-cost-vettel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 The Hulk in a Merc, well we never saw that coming, or did we? https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29631897/hulkenberg-was-mercedes-second-choice-hamilton-2013 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Toto happy to go to Court over RP Brake Ducts. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/53722661 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 If Perze is back this weekend, where does that leave the Hulk, back in the wilderness? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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