Formula 1, 2020

[PaulRhB]

Well he may be annoyed but like I said above it actually proved something positive about George when it goes wrong so not a total loss  

If they are going to make a mess up best to do it once both titles are sewn up. 

[Oldddudders]

4 minutes ago, PaulRhB said:

If they are going to make a mess up best to do it once both titles are sewn up. 

Perhaps that's it. Eye off the ball. 

[Izzy]

8 minutes ago, PMW said:

Contracts can be bought out, but not this one as Mercedes have already tried, they tried to get him released to replace VB for 2021 before extending his contract, Williams refused point blank. 

 

That was with the old Williams Management I believe. The new one was willing to allow him to drive for Mercedes this weekend so might also be open to offers for his contract to bolster the Williams finances.

 

Perhaps the question should not be whether George Russell is good enough for Mercedes but whether Mercedes are good enough.............

 

Izzy

[Sidecar Racer]

A bit more on the tyre cock up .

 

 From Jenny Gow .

 

I fear that George Russell will get either a penalty or DQ’d after that tyre mix up….if it was a mixed set that is one thing but if it was one tyre from Bottas’ set, that is another matter. Up to the FIA to decide. #F1

 

And from Sky ,

 

Bottas' tyres were first incorrectly fitted to Russell's car,

Edited December 6, 2020 by Sidecar Racer

[gordon s]

Wow! What an afternoon. Filled with incident and sadly GR lost out. When he came back from 5th to 2nd after ‘tyre gate’ he could see a possible win. Gutted when they called to say slow puncture.....

[PaulRhB]

Well it proved he can handle the ultimate car in traffic and having to fight. That might well have been a question after his safety car crash and I think he’s answered it rather well. 
Gutting for him but I suspect ultimately has guaranteed him a seat in 22. 

[Sidecar Racer]

39 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

That's really funny, but Andrew is an RMweb treasure so I do hope he survives! How can we warn him?

 

 Can we get Ch 4 to put out a warning for him ????

[ess1uk]

50 minutes ago, PMW said:

 

correct, but as long as not fitted deliberately and changed within 3 laps he should get away with it

 

Which is what I said 

Edited December 6, 2020 by ess1uk

[PMW]

1 minute ago, ess1uk said:

Which is what I ssid

 

and I think we are both wrong, I'm fairly sure the reference to tyres of differing specifications refers to mixing hard and medium for example, but from one cars own allocation, not using tyres allocated to another car. 

 

I can find no specific penalty for running on someone else's tyres, which normally means it is not permitted full stop and therefore, I fear, a DQ

[Gareth Collier]

Crofty has just explained that it looks like George will be disqualified as one lap on 2 of Valteries meant he exceeded the tire allocation.

Edited December 6, 2020 by Gareth Collier

[PMW]

3 minutes ago, Gareth Collier said:

Crofty has just explained that it looks like George will be disqualified as one lap on 2 of Valteries meant he exceeded the tire allocation.

 

Which is what I originally said .....

 

He might get away with it if he has a set of unused softs that he didn't use in qualifying but that's unlikely as the mercs did an extra run in Q3

Edited December 6, 2020 by PMW

[Gareth Collier]

1 minute ago, PMW said:

 

Which is what I originally said .....

Boy are the rules complicated

[PMW]

Agreed, and the problem is they are often incomplete or open to interpretation, then there is always the option for the FIA to over turn any regulation if it sees extenuating circumstances, so even if the rule is clear the outcome might not be ... 

[Sidecar Racer]

1 minute ago, PMW said:

, then there is always the option for the FIA to over turn any regulation

 

 Now that just never happens !!!!!     

[PMW]

1 minute ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 Now that just never happens !!!!!     

 Unless your car is red .....

[Darius43]

3 minutes ago, PMW said:

Agreed, and the problem is they are often incomplete or open to interpretation, then there is always the option for the FIA to over turn any regulation if it sees extenuating circumstances, so even if the rule is clear the outcome might not be ... 

 

Unfortunately George wasn’t driving a Ferrari... 

[Zomboid]

You'd think that having to make 2 pit stops in 2 laps and having your race wrecked would be punishment enough for that particular almighty cock-up. It's hard to say that any advantage was gained...

[Neil]

Sometimes it's not the result that counts but the manner in which you conduct yourself.

[Bulleidboy100]

I turned off the TV as soon as the trophies had been presented. Did they not say  the first lap incident would be considered after the race - what was the outcome?

[Stuart A]

9 minutes ago, Bulleidboy100 said:

I turned off the TV as soon as the trophies had been presented. Did they not say  the first lap incident would be considered after the race - what was the outcome?

3 place grid penalty for Leclerc at the next race

[StuAllen]

Just catching up on Teds notebook - apparently there is an FIA email saying that if any attendees from the GP’s in Bahrain test positive for COVID-19 they they can’t travel to Abu Dhabi next week. It’s not clear if that applies to drivers as well. I’d like to see Lewis well enough to race but it would be good to see George race in the Mercedes again next week.

[PhilJ W]

George will keep his points.

https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/60116/stewards-allow-russell-to-keep-his-first-f1-points-despite-mercedes-pit-stop-calamity/

[Bulleidboy100]

41 minutes ago, Stuart A said:

3 place grid penalty for Leclerc at the next race

Thank you.

[Hroth]

Words fail me!

 

But....

 

No, I'll keep the conspiracy theory under wraps for now

[newbryford]

Patiently waiting for Andrew P.......

It won't be long now.