Andrew P Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 Bet they didn't see this coming when they paid Bernie, haha. https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/05/f1-posts-104-million-loss-in-q3-despite-rise-in-revenue/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 ANOTHER bloomin Night Race https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/30261811/saudi-arabia-confirms-f1-night-race-2021 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Andrew P said: ANOTHER bloomin Night Race https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/30261811/saudi-arabia-confirms-f1-night-race-2021 Worse than that, another street circuit for the first 2 years while their planned track is being built. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2020 F1 is essentially a European sport. Races in these rich backwaters hold little appeal, be they circuit or street. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: F1 is essentially a European sport. Races in these rich backwaters hold little appeal, be they circuit or street. I understand the feeling, but I also believe a world championship should be just that, not a European series. F1's core may be Europe, but it usually includes other continents, except Africa. Maybe a South African, Nigerian, Kenyan or Egyptian GP would be more appropriate? In the US, some of national championships are labelled "World Series" which is pretentious. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said: I understand the feeling, but I also believe a world championship should be just that, not a European series. F1's core may be Europe, but it usually includes other continents, except Africa. Maybe a South African, Nigerian, Kenyan or Egyptian GP would be more appropriate? In the US, some of national championships are labelled "World Series" which is pretentious. The European F1 circuits grew organically over time and tend to be more "atmospheric". Recently created circuits, backed by regimes that see F1 as a way to improve their world wide credentials, tend to be less attractive from a spectator/viewer perspective. The ultimate worst cases are the so called street circuits used in FE. Night races also lack the natural surroundings of day races that add to the visual experience. Singapore has some delightful trackside architecture but during a night race you could be anywhere. Sadly, FOM's chase for greater revenue and profits, with more races in the calendar will only make things worse. If there could be more races at some of the older F1 tracks (brought suitably up to date for FOM's hospitality/celebrity party requirements) I am sure it would be better than more desert venue/nighttime events. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete the Elaner said: I understand the feeling, but I also believe a world championship should be just that, not a European series. F1's core may be Europe, but it usually includes other continents, except Africa. Maybe a South African, Nigerian, Kenyan or Egyptian GP would be more appropriate? In the US, some of national championships are labelled "World Series" which is pretentious. A few more races in the Southern hemisphere would be better than some of the current ones. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I understand the feeling, but I also believe a world championship should be just that, not a European series. F1's core may be Europe, but it usually includes other continents, except Africa. Maybe a South African, Nigerian, Kenyan or Egyptian GP would be more appropriate? In the US, some of national championships are labelled "World Series" which is pretentious. Historically because they were sponsored by the 'World' newspaper as I understand it... 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I does seem that F1 is rather taking the P**s with it's statement and hoping that most of the readers - can't. Quote "We take our responsibilities very seriously and have made our position on human rights and other issues clear to all our partners and host countries who commit to respect human rights in the way their events are hosted and delivered." News of the race follows the addition of Saudi Arabia's state-owned oil company, Aramco, as a global partner of Formula One in March. Endquote. I don't know about anyone else, but that doesn't quite seem to be in line with the International interpretation of how and where Human Rights should be applied. "Well we haven't had anyone murdered and dismembered at any recent motor races, so we are completely able to demonstrate our perfectly acceptable Human Rights record." Are a few blood stained Shekels really worth that much? Julian 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, jcredfer said: Are a few blood stained Shekels really worth that much? I'm afraid you already know the answer to that. Liberty are not interested in human rights or motor racing. Money is the only objective. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Oldddudders said: I'm afraid you already know the answer to that. Liberty are not interested in human rights or motor racing. Money is the only objective. Indeed I do, sadly. Nice to know that our high minded investigative freedom of the Press will have them be setting their "Hounds" free on the chase, or will they cower in the gutter, overshadowed by all that money - again? Got the answer to that one too. Julian 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 hours ago, jcredfer said: "Well we haven't had anyone murdered and dismembered at any recent motor races, so we are completely able to demonstrate our perfectly acceptable Human Rights record." Are a few blood stained Shekels really worth that much? Julian So will you stop watching? 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Oldddudders said: I'm afraid you already know the answer to that. Liberty are not interested in human rights or motor racing. Money is the only objective. All of which makes an irony of the company being called Liberty... steve 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 And the teams aren't exactly whiter-than-white, either. They happily strut their stuff on circuits where the governing regime is far from benign, and at least one team is in considerable hock to a Middle-East Wealth Fund. It's a trough, and everyone wants their snoutful. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Oldddudders said: And the teams aren't exactly whiter-than-white, either. They happily strut their stuff on circuits where the governing regime is far from benign, and at least one team is in considerable hock to a Middle-East Wealth Fund. It's a trough, and everyone wants their snoutful. That can be said of many organisations other than the FIA. But thats for discussion elsewhere. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, PaulRhB said: So will you stop watching? Yes you're quite right, probably not, as whether I do or not, won't have the slightest effect and to be honest, it would be the racing teams I will be watching, not the F1 Board in action. I simply don't like hypocrisy and public statements intended to cover it up. Julian Edited November 7, 2020 by jcredfer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 I think we all accept we are a little hypocritical with such things. The same drive for money is ultimately what makes this sport possible with the costs involved 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 06/11/2020 at 09:55, Oldddudders said: F1 is essentially a European sport. Races in these rich backwaters hold little appeal, be they circuit or street. It's mostly a TV sport, as this year has proven. They could hold the races anywhere, and there's no reason why they couldn't build a decent circuit outside the traditional places, they just haven't. Also there's a strong history of F1 in South America (at least two of the greatest ever are from there in Senna and Fangio), plus Australia, Japan and Canada have held races for a very long time. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Lewis seat drama at Imola. https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/58953/last-minute-hamilton-decision-caused-seat-drama-mercedes/?fbclid=IwAR1vnqCC-4H63NdpNGnviegQyWbVDQ2yFeXLBSPq6bjFp7DDW2Sph1smkOg 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hamilton's Title? Yes in all but name this weekend I think. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/30284124/how-lewis-hamilton-win-seventh-f1-title-turkish-gp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Vietnam removed from the 2021 calendar and Interlagos may be reinstated. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54879815 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Mattia Binotto to attend fewer Races next year, what does that mean for the Team? https://fb.watch/1G34jGrM88/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) On 09/11/2020 at 23:56, RJS1977 said: Vietnam removed from the 2021 calendar and Interlagos may be reinstated. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54879815 Edited July 12, 2022 by RedgateModels 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Williams F1 Boss test positive for Covid. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/30298153/williams-f1-team-boss-tests-positive-covid-19 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: Williams F1 Boss test positive for Covid. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/30298153/williams-f1-team-boss-tests-positive-covid-19 There have been several cases in F1 this season & they seem to carry on with minimal fuss. Their test & quarantine procedure seems to be working well. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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