Andrew P Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 Stability required according to Ferrari CEO, and Binotto is safe. https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/56395/binotto-safe-as-ceo-stops-quot-revolving-door-atmosphere-quot-at-ferrari/?fbclid=IwAR0-UHsIrbls8UekFzIk0k5Yk21SczzFuRM36L1IAxGB-7oPTfICRsE951s 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, Andrew P said: Stability required according to Ferrari CEO, and Binotto is safe. Probably a good decision. Stability has not been their recent policy & the team are not where they want to be. It took Mercedes a few years to build to where they are, same for Red Bull before them & Ferrari for their golden period at the beginning of the century. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 FP2 does not require party-modes, I know, but the pecking order isn't unfamiliar, and both Ferraris spun at the same place. Ominously, most of the field were together on one straight at one point, redolent of Monza Q3 last year, which was an embarrassing shambles. The 'please go slow and then give me a tow' syndrome is bad for racing. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Thinking about the demise of Williams earlier.... Yes, it's sad to see Williams sold and the family pull out of F1, but the same happened to Tyrrell, and - three changes of ownership later - look what they've become! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 Renault renamed Alpine for 2021, Are they planning on selling the Team? https://www.racefans.net/2020/09/04/renault-to-announce-its-f1-team-will-be-renamed-alpine/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Renault renamed Alpine for 2021, Are they planning on selling the Team? https://www.racefans.net/2020/09/04/renault-to-announce-its-f1-team-will-be-renamed-alpine/ Alpine? It's all downhill from now! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, EddieB said: Alpine? It's all downhill from now! They've already got a Mountain to Climb. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Renault renamed Alpine for 2021, Are they planning on selling the Team? https://www.racefans.net/2020/09/04/renault-to-announce-its-f1-team-will-be-renamed-alpine/ Alonso might push them over the edge. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: Renault renamed Alpine for 2021, Are they planning on selling the Team? https://www.racefans.net/2020/09/04/renault-to-announce-its-f1-team-will-be-renamed-alpine/ I guess they just think their existing Alpine brand is a sexier name to compete with Aston Martin in 2021 Note they waited until their performance improved to do it 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Andrew P said: Renault renamed Alpine for 2021, Are they planning on selling the Team? https://www.racefans.net/2020/09/04/renault-to-announce-its-f1-team-will-be-renamed-alpine/ So long as they go faster than a Sunbeam Alpine... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 This has been on my terrasse for the last 14 years.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: This has been on my terrasse for the last 14 years.... Is that a Speed predictor for next years Races? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 degrees C. is a tad chilly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: 4 degrees C. is a tad chilly. It under-reads marvellously - but is linear. So I add 8.5 degrees and we are about right. I am frightened to take it apart and shift the glass in case it all falls to pieces! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just been following qualifying on BBC livestream. Someone texted the question "At what point do we call Ferrari a mid-field team?". Given their performance today, with Vettel qualifying mid-Q1 and Leclerc qualifying mid-Q2, the question might be better asked as "Are Ferrari now a third division team?" With the Mercs on the first row, the second row is positively unfamiliar! And Hamilton gets the positively gaudy Pirelli Pole Position award too... Finally given the fad for "towing" perhaps AA vans should be stationed around the track... Its all too much... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Intriguing that Merc very clearly avoided the tow, both internally and from others. No tow, no party mode and still 0.6s clear. were they trying to reduce that gap to the field & play politics whilst knowing they were fast enough? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) Merc said the loss in downforce and tyre condition negated the advantage of a tow when asked by Jennie Gow. Edited September 5, 2020 by PaulRhB 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Well, getting the party modes removed worked well for Ferrari.......not. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 Is it me, or have Renault engines increasingly found their stride? And clearly not due to any party mode. While Honda maybe less so. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 03/09/2020 at 09:17, Andrew P said: ... we will see on Saturday. Armchair and Remote booked for 18.30. Time for a snooze before coverage starts at 19:30? The C4 F1 page still showing it due to start at 18:30, despite something to do with bees taking precedence. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: Is it me, or have Renault engines increasingly found their stride? And clearly not due to any party mode. While Honda maybe less so. RB seem to be see-sawing don’t they with power and aerodynamics, strong at some tracks then dropping at others. Max said last week he missed out on 2nd because the energy stored ran out so maybe they are right on the limit of their engine trying to catch Merc? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Mercedes apart, it seems the days of a clear pecking order are over. Four different teams represented in places three to seven on the grid. Nice. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 What a MAD quali. I think the answer would be two sessions with one Car from each Team in each session, that of course is fine until you get Rain or changeable conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Merc said the loss in downforce and tyre condition negated the advantage of a tow when asked by Jennie Gow. Might it also be that given the chaos with qualifying last year, they wanted to make sure they didn't get caught in any ensuing melee? One thing that puzzled me - in Q3, all the second times were set with two minutes left on the clock - time for the drivers to either get two more quick laps in, or a slower one followed by another quick one - yet nobody went round again. Is the wear on tyres sufficient that it's impossible to set a second quick lap as fast as your first? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, RJS1977 said: Might it also be that given the chaos with qualifying last year, they wanted to make sure they didn't get caught in any ensuing melee? One thing that puzzled me - in Q3, all the second times were set with two minutes left on the clock - time for the drivers to either get two more quick laps in, or a slower one followed by another quick one - yet nobody went round again. Is the wear on tyres sufficient that it's impossible to set a second quick lap as fast as your first? I think all the kinetic energy has been used in the one lap, so you need a cool-down lap to recharge. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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