scale Ideal? scales.

[melmerby]

20 minutes ago, railroadbill said:

Thanks for that.   That's a really neat layout! 

As Shinkansen lines just have shinkansen trains running on them (I think!)  to be accurate you'd have to have a layout with  separate tracks for high speed and ordinary trains (although both would be 9mm track...) h'mm. 

 

Coincidentally, I've just come across a post on another thread that has the front covers of RM and CM for February 2020 and there is an article about Queensland trains sold to Thailand modelled in 1:120 scale on 9mm track.  That's described as  TTm  presumably TT metre gauge  (unless Thailand has regauged the coaches to metre gauge, that doesn't sound right.)   TTn42  which must be n gauge representing 42" gauge track sounds much better!

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149111-Hornby-2020-range-reveal-date-6th-jan/page/22/

 

 

The State Railway Of Thailand is indeed metre gauge and it has been the official gauge since 1919.

Edited December 20, 2019 by melmerby

[F-UnitMad]

5 hours ago, melmerby said:

How about the one time 19mm 00 gauge?

Closer to true than EM.

That's the 'standard' for 4mm/"00" in the USA. It's even rarer than 'British' HO.

[melmerby]

On 18/12/2019 at 17:41, The Johnster said:

As was Kidderminster SVR station; Ross on Wye with metric bricks.

There are metric bricks and metric bricks.

One is totally logical for a metric size, the other is for use with existing imperial bricks.

My previously wooden porch was rebuilt in brick about 3 years ago and when I asked how the bricks would tie into the 1960s house I was told there are special imperial compatible metric bricks.

The height is near as dammit the same as imperial and therefore thicker than a proper metric brick.

[railroadbill]

35 minutes ago, melmerby said:

The State Railway Of Thailand is indeed metre gauge and it has been the official gauge since 1919.

Thanks for that, so the Queensland stock they bought ( that the article discuses modelling )  must have been re-gauged from 3' 6" to metre gauge.  So the scale name of TTm was correct, and had the stock been modelled in original Queensland form it would have been TTn42. 

[009 micro modeller]

1 hour ago, railroadbill said:

Thanks for that.   That's a really neat layout! 

As Shinkansen lines just have shinkansen trains running on them (I think!)  to be accurate you'd have to have a layout with  separate tracks for high speed and ordinary trains (although both would be 9mm track...) h'mm. 

 

Coincidentally, I've just come across a post on another thread that has the front covers of RM and CM for February 2020 and there is an article about Queensland trains sold to Thailand modelled in 1:120 scale on 9mm track.  That's described as  TTm  presumably TT metre gauge  (unless Thailand has regauged the coaches to metre gauge, that doesn't sound right.)   TTn42  which must be n gauge representing 42" gauge track sounds much better!

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149111-Hornby-2020-range-reveal-date-6th-jan/page/22/

 

 

 

Apparently Thailand is metre gauge, so they might have done: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Railway_of_Thailand

 

My Shinkansen comment was suggesting that it would be difficult to model a Japanese location where standard and 3’ 6” gauge run close to each other, given that the stock available would use different scales.

 

I think I’ve also seen 1:120 on 9mm gauge to model New Zealand 3’ 6” referred to simply as NZ120.

[tomparryharry]

I must admit, the thought of modelling in 3'6" gauge does appeal. It's the thought of those SAR garrets, not to mention the class 25 4-8-4 locomotives.  Oh! and the class 26 Red Devil. Drool......

 

The Youtube videos explain all. Porn, Pure porn.....

 

Ian.

[The Johnster]

Shinskansen and 'standard Japanese' 3'6" gauge run close to each other at the main station hubs where they interchange, so if there is enough space (Shinkansen trains are long and sometimes run in twin sets), a layout featuring both could be constructed.  One would be restricted to a dense urban environment, though.  But if I understand the situation corrently, the stock is of different scales in order to utilise the same track gauge, so at least one of them would have to be scratchbuilt and not RTR.  

 

The other possibility is perspective modelling, with RTR 2mm scale Shinkansens whizzing about in the background of a 3'6" RTR layout on which all the operation was taking place.  This suggests a more rural or at least suburban environment.

[melmerby]

There are places where Shinkansen & 3' 6" run side by side complete wth level crossings!

This is the Yamagata Shinkansen which is really classed as a Mini-Shinkansen but still has smart trains:

https://goo.gl/maps/npsyEevjVUbaJWJNA

 

Standard gauge on left, 3' 6" on right.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamagata_Shinkansen

 

 

Edited December 21, 2019 by melmerby

[tomparryharry]

I can't quote on a country-by-country basis, but 3'6" is also known as 'Cape Gauge'.