RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 24/11/2019 at 17:44, cctransuk said: 18100? DHP1? .... and, if you include trip locos / shunters - TAURUS, 11001, D0226, D0227, D2999; (and I'm sure that others will find more). 1 word... Leader. but i’ll sign up for a EOI for a Fell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 Expression of interest duly made - OO gauge DCC sound. Happy to let the typos in the flyer slide - some of the emails that I have dashed off in haste are horrendous in that respect. Let those who are without sin etc. Cheers Darius 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Now if it actually had 4 motors and a working replica of the gearbox inside, I might be interested! I have played with the sectioned miniature at NRM. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, DavidB-AU said: Now if it actually had 4 motors and a working replica of the gearbox inside, I might be interested! I have played with the sectioned miniature at NRM. Cheers David I've got a Lego version with 2 motors driving through a single diff...almost enough to make 'Chard loose his lunch. Doesn't let smoke out, works actually quite well. Is noisy, especially at low speeds. (one sets one motor to full chat, then drives with the other one). I don't think I have photos of it on the web, as I'm remiss on photos since Flickr went to 1000 maximum... James 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 Out of curiosity why was the wheel arrangement changed from 4-8-4 to 4-4-4-4 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: Out of curiosity why was the wheel arrangement changed from 4-8-4 to 4-4-4-4 ? Because the central rods conflicted with the internal gearing. Something I jocularly cited when criticising DJ mechanisms and something which has caused concern on the part of some people when the original design of the GT3 gearing was made public. To my mind, it’s simple. the coupling rods must be present so let them do the job of driving the coupled wheels. On DJ models, there had to be so much slop in the coupling rods to cope with the internal gearing that on four-coupled locomotives the rods thrashed about at odd angles. The problem was less evident on six-coupled locomotives but the rods needed to be in a single piece. That minimised the odd angles the rods assumed but limited flexibility. Sorry to burble on. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 hours ago, adb968008 said: 1 word... Leader. but i’ll sign up for a EOI for a Fell. Leader - in a sense; but 36001 was the first of what was intended to be a class, and was not the only one on the (abhorted) production line. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Why doesnt one of the grammer/speling critics offer to help the manufacturer's with a accurate advertisement? Edited November 26, 2019 by Mick Bonwick Apostrophe inserted. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said: Why doesn't one of the grammer/spelling critics offer to help the manufacturer's with an accurate advertisement? Oh, the humanity 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Mick Bonwick said: Why doesnt one of the grammer/speling critics offer to help the manufacturer's with a accurate advertisement? Already done. The advert in Model Rail is correct as regards grammar and spelling. Jason 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 hours ago, truffy said: Oh, the humanity I think the errors in Mick's post were intentional. As was you not noticing that “grammar” was also incorrect, no doubt. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 24/11/2019 at 15:10, Steamport Southport said: Already available in model form. Jason Yes I wonder if KR have bought two Judith Edge Kits? Or better still do they have nay drawings to work from? They may realise then that the 4-Do-4 has some differences body wise to the 4-4-4-4. After seeing the attempt at gearing they made on GT3 this could be a real doozie. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Barry O said: Yes I wonder if KR have bought two Judith Edge Kits? Or better still do they have nay drawings to work from? They may realise then that the 4-Do-4 has some differences body wise to the 4-4-4-4. After seeing the attempt at gearing they made on GT3 this could be a real doozie. Baz The original works drawings are available from the (N)RM - I bought a set when I intended trying to correct a Dinosaur Diesels kit; (which was promptly sold-on when Judith Edge announced their kit). Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, cctransuk said: The original works drawings are available from the (N)RM - I bought a set when I intended trying to correct a Dinosaur Diesels kit; (which was promptly sold-on when Judith Edge announced their kit). Regards, John Isherwood. Does that have the modifications on as well as I know it took Mike ages to get his head around some of the changes? Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Barry O said: Does that have the modifications on as well as I know it took Mike ages to get his head around some of the changes? Baz I don't think so - they are the originals as-built. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 I went through all the drawings in the NRM collection and it still took a long time to piece everything together, one or two were missing as well. 10100 was modified in all sorts of ways more or less all through its life - and until it was painted green it's impossible to tell which side or end you are looking at in photos. Bizarrely BR put two LH crests on in the black livery but a LH and a RH one when it was painted green. There is what looks like a GA in the old OPC collection at York but it doesn't have a single dimension on it, all the rest are various detail drawings. Judging by the rapidity of all the modifications I would say that it was fairly unlikely to have been built the same as first drawn. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I have this one - excuse crappy iPhone grab shot 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 And if any enterprising kit bashers wish to do a few cut and shuts..... 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Was the Fell actually single ended? In the arrangement above it appears to only have seats for the driver and secondman at one end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 Different section heights on that plan. The seats, diesels,etc have all been removed to show detail below them. Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 An incredible feat of engineering, marred only by being given a face that only a mother could love. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, truffy said: An incredible feat of engineering, marred only by being given a face that only a mother could love. Your mother must love you more than mine does me. She would have given me up if I looked that bad! Roy 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 15:25, Nile said: What a racket! The sound version should come with ear defenders. I have a lawnmower you can borrow for the sound file... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: I have a lawnmower you can borrow for the sound file... I think you'd need more than one lawnmower, even if it was run over a rockery... (I said _pardon_ ? ) James the retired stoker who spent enough time with a pair of screamin' Jimmy's (92v12 NA's ). to have some experience of LOUD...and of supercharged diesels. ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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