sulzer71 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, aeroplane said: d6700-d6742 had double rivet roof d6743-d6798 had single rivet roof d6799 onward had welded roof Thank you , that's very helpful when deciding which ones can be done from the Accurascale model So , to summarise Models 37026 + 37027 can be used to create loco's 37001>37042 and 37119 (PLEASE NOTE , as far as I know 37001>003 + 37119 had a rivetted surround on the cantrail grilles) Models 37043 + 37051 can be used to create loco's 37043>37098 with the exception of RSH built loco's (069>095) No models to create 37099>118 currently (this depends really on how picky you are , same applies to all above) Edited June 27, 2023 by sulzer71 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, 97406 said: See my posts earlier on this thread but I used IPA on 37066, and white spirit unintentially on 027. Yes I caught that one thanks. I found the white spirit point interesting. Did it remove the numbers well with no damage to the paint? I use Tcut on Bachmann locos but i have used Isopropynol and was going to plumb for either of those depending on experiences of others. I was a bit scared off using isopropynol after watching Charlie Chadwick on youtube attempting to use it on a Heljan 33. I do have Heljan 27s to renumber too buts outside the boundaries of this thread. I remember watching an Accurascale video on YouTube a while back called 'Gone in 60 seconds' about removing numbers on a class 55 but I cant find it for looking now. Great work on your own locos, They look rather special, Very nice. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, aeroplane said: d6700-d6742 had double rivet roof d6743-d6798 had single rivet roof d6799 onward had welded roof This is great information but did the locos go through the same sequence of renumbering? As in were they kept in sequence going through the TOPS numbering? 6701 becoming 37001 or 6751 becoming 37051. Appreciate I could check each individual loco on 37 websites but others may also be interested to share your knowledge too. Thanks Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 hours ago, PaulRhB said: I know these were already on the way but is it possible to drop the roof panel hinges in future batches so they sit on rather than proud of the roof? Still great as a separate part as you get the undercut but they shouldn’t have air underneath 😉 Pretty please as it’ll save me sweating as I chop them down trying not to score the paint. ©️ Accurascale Two similar angles from my Flickr collections I found the easiest way to lower these was to push the pins out from inside using a small drill, then open the holes slightly larger to allow the bar to sit flush and fix with a small amount of solvent applied from inside. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroplane Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said: This is great information but did the locos go through the same sequence of renumbering? As in were they kept in sequence going through the TOPS numbering? 6701 becoming 37001 or 6751 becoming 37051. Appreciate I could check each individual loco on 37 websites but others may also be interested to share your knowledge too. Thanks Andy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_Class_37_locomotives has a list of each renumbering if that helps you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, aeroplane said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_Class_37_locomotives has a list of each renumbering if that helps you Thats great, thank you. So they stayed in sequence so any of us modelling TOPS period can use your info provided above and just translate the 4 digit number to 5 digit tops. Thanks for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said: Yes I caught that one thanks. I found the white spirit point interesting. Did it remove the numbers well with no damage to the paint? I use Tcut on Bachmann locos but i have used Isopropynol and was going to plumb for either of those depending on experiences of others. I was a bit scared off using isopropynol after watching Charlie Chadwick on youtube attempting to use it on a Heljan 33. I do have Heljan 27s to renumber too buts outside the boundaries of this thread. I remember watching an Accurascale video on YouTube a while back called 'Gone in 60 seconds' about removing numbers on a class 55 but I cant find it for looking now. Great work on your own locos, They look rather special, Very nice. Andy I was literally giving the bodysides on 027 a wipe with white spirit to remove fingerprints, and the white stripe, the scotty dog and electrification flash came away on one side. The blue paint was softened slightly but it toughened up as the spirit evapourated. With IPA I had to really agitate it with a cocktail stick to remove the printed detail. The underlying paint looked a lot more tidy on the example accidentally stripped with white spirit. The pic I posted of the weathered 027 earlier shows the side that was partially stripped by accident. I masked off and resprayed the white stripe and applied transfers, but forgot the scottie dog! Will replace it in due course! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said: Thats great, thank you. So they stayed in sequence so any of us modelling TOPS period can use your info provided above and just translate the 4 digit number to 5 digit tops. Thanks for your help. Not quite.... D6700 became 37119 (and then 37350) D6983 was scrapped early so never got a tops number D6819 did not become 37119 but slotted in at 37283 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2023 My favourite reference point for Class 37 renumberings is at the classic go-to page - https://class37.co.uk/. It's interesting to see that someone's now put this info onto Wikipedia, but the useful thing about the Class 37 page is the ability to search on the 'Fleet History' tab under each different running number depending on whether you knew the loco in it's early days, the first TOPS number or subsequent refurbs, it's all easy to navigate. For the roof detail variations, Flickr can be your friend - type in a loco running number and year and you'll usually be greeted with many shots uploaded, with a degree of luck and searching around the different years you can start to see the key details needed. It's a little more DIY research than just having everything there on a plate but makes for some great fun itself I always think! I've been in the same situation many a time and from experience it's always easier to take the opposite mindset of "I'd like to model 37XXX, which donor model shall I use?" rather than "I've just bought a model, which 37s can I make from it?" - it helps you open the mind a bit consider conversion parts from different places and some modelling fun! The interesting thing about the Accurascale model is the removable roof sections - in a few years time with more variations modelled we could soon all be swapping roof mouldings around on our models in the same way I'd used to be swapping over the different nose ends on the old-school Bachmann 37s, so I am sure there will be some more swapsies fun to come! Cheers James 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, James Makin said: in a few years time with more variations modelled we could soon all be swapping roof mouldings around I'm hoping this is another part that Accurascale consider stocking as spares to enable this kind of behaviour :) , I've had one of my 37027s delivered with the incorrect roof panel (it looks like one that should have gone on 37051) but no problem , it just means I can now do 37043 in Blue from it as it has the single rivetted panel instead of the double , I just need to practice my painting now as the loco was stripped to bare plastic due to a little mishap at the weekend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2023 The windscreen inserts and glazing would open up additional possibilities for conversions. Alas these aren’t available at the moment as I’ve contacted support about this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G-BOAF Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: What did the owner not like about it that they are selling so quickly??? Or what major error has RMWeb not discovered? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: What did the owner not like about it that they are selling so quickly??? Or what major error has RMWeb not discovered? He had two of the same loco and one he was going to backdate - must have changed his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: What did the owner not like about it that they are selling so quickly??? Or what major error has RMWeb not discovered? Perhaps they just need to generate some cash? Could be lots of reasons, not all negative 😉 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, woodenhead said: He had two of the same loco and one he was going to backdate - must have changed his mind. Proof it is increasingly hard to backdate such specifically detailed models withouy major work and likely a repaint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff Popular Post McC Posted June 27, 2023 Accurascale staff Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Proof it is increasingly hard to backdate such specifically detailed models withouy major work and likely a repaint. It's a good thing then we've a 500 loco roadmap of 37s on the way ;) :) 14 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium younGGuns7 Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, McC said: It's a good thing then we've a 500 loco roadmap of 37s on the way ;) :) Something for everyone- if they are patient 🤫🤫🤣🤣 Edited June 27, 2023 by younGGuns7 3 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, McC said: It's a good thing then we've a 500 loco roadmap of 37s on the way ;) :) The gift that keeps on giving for 15 years! In all seriousness, the more variety made the more people are convinced they need another one.... and another one.... 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2023 9 hours ago, sulzer71 said: Thank you , that's very helpful when deciding which ones can be done from the Accurascale model So , to summarise Models 37026 + 37027 can be used to create loco's 37001>37042 and 37119 (PLEASE NOTE , as far as I know 37001>003 + 37119 had a rivetted surround on the cantrail grilles) Models 37043 + 37051 can be used to create loco's 37043>37098 with the exception of RSH built loco's (069>095) No models to create 37099>118 currently (this depends really on how picky you are , same applies to all above) Brill, that's it! Looking very closely at my 37s I can just about see they're double riveted ones, but it's barely visible, even under scrutiny. I guess if I wish to count rivets on 066, I'll just have to divide it by 2! 😄 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted June 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2023 Very pleased with my 37026 (sound fitted) received from Colletts Models in Exmouth. Fitted the Accurascale crew - easy to unclip the body to fit these. Also fitted the pipe work, which was a little more tricky than the Deltic where the buffer beam is removable. Obviously removed the tension locks. I will make up wire coupling bar so that can use tension locks on the wagons / coaches being coupled but yet to determine the best way of mounting said wire, although thinking about utilising the holes where the snow ploughs are fitted as these not being fitted to my loco. Some experimentation and trial and error to follow. I've run mine on a short length of track, but first impressions, very good and sounds superb. I do like the fading of the lights when switching on and off, plus the automatic cab light switch off when moving off. Runs smoothly on my MERG DCC system. Waiting patiently for the next to be delivered from Accurascale, part of the next delivery due. Tempted to get a third .... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywhizz Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, McC said: It's a good thing then we've a 500 loco roadmap of 37s on the way ;) :) My wallet has just run off and is cowering in the corner of the room!! these really are the 37’s that keep on giving, 026 arrived last week. 027 due to arrive from Colletts Models tomorrow and possibly 043 coming the week after next! Looking forward to some more 1980’s Scottish announcements within the 500! 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairoa Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, McC said: It's a good thing then we've a 500 loco roadmap of 37s on the way ;) :) Now if ACS would consider fantasy paint schemes, we could have a never-ending roadmap of Class 37s. Add an extra '0' to that 500. 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melton Works Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 13 hours ago, sulzer71 said: Have you used Bachmann headcode boxes there? Yes (older tooling) and filed the lenses to fit more flush into the box. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melton Works Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 13 hours ago, wirey33 said: 37109 has a welded roof, so doesn’t work with the latest Accurascale batch of 37026, 37027, 37043 & 37051. Better get the file and roof grey aerosol out then 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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