Class 37, by Accurascale

[Albie the plumber]

4 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

So we can get back to the actual topic, we have an Audi on order via a company car, it was due next week, we have made all the arrangements to swap reg plates, insurance, move cars around to other individuals to have an email on Thursday to say it’s 7 months delayed, sorry this is the world we live in currently so let’s move on PLEASE it’s not just AS having supply issues, and yes we have paid a 6 months deposit at the order placement stage. Also look at other threads Heljan 47, Dapol’s 59 SLW Class 24/25 etc etc etc 

When they've sent you a second or third email teĺling you the same thing , your patience may start to wear thin .

[97406]

6 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

So we can get back to the actual topic, we have an Audi on order via a company car, it was due next week, we have made all the arrangements to swap reg plates, insurance, move cars around to other individuals to have an email on Thursday to say it’s 7 months delayed, sorry this is the world we live in currently so let’s move on PLEASE it’s not just AS having supply issues, and yes we have paid a 6 months deposit at the order placement stage. Also look at other threads Heljan 47, Dapol’s 59 SLW Class 24/25 etc etc etc 

 

The latest Hornby 87s too, though I’m backdating respraying a £99 special instead at some point instead.

[97406]

3 minutes ago, Albie the plumber said:

When they've sent you a second or third email teĺling you the same thing , your patience may start to wear thin .

I have very little patience in general life, but I understand the position Accurascale is in. I work with a lot of companies who manufacture offshore and this sort of thing is commonplace, alas. In the good old days when you had Margate and Binns Road making the models, it was different, but you’d be paying a lot more for the models if we still manufactured them here. A shame in many ways, but that’s the world we live in today.

[Pteremy]

Have I missed something? Surely this is a website dedicated to, in effect, discretionary spend on model railways, rather than something more life critical? 

[TomScrut]

18 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

around to other individuals to have an email on Thursday to say it’s 7 months delayed

 

5 minutes ago, 97406 said:

In the good old days when you had Margate and Binns Road making the models, it was different

 

I know somebody in a similar position with a JLR product, so it's not even an issue restricted to offshore.

[newbryford]

2 minutes ago, Pteremy said:

Have I missed something? Surely this is a website dedicated to, in effect, discretionary spend on model railways, rather than something more life critical? 

 

Model Railways are not a matter of life and death.

 

They're more important than that.

 

😉

[TomScrut]

2 minutes ago, Pteremy said:

Have I missed something? Surely this is a website dedicated to, in effect, discretionary spend on model railways, rather than something more life critical? 

 

The thing is that people tend to be passionate about their hobbies, that's why they have them as hobbies. So it's understandable people getting annoyed about situations (not limited to those of timings).

[reddragon]

I am fine with the delay because the lives & health of these workers is far greater than the urgent need for the on time delivery of these locos however eagerly anticipated.

 

As far as I am concerned, as long as we get honest updates, progress information and realism I am happy.

 

Again, please pass on out thanks and gratitude to these workers so they know that we appreciate them.

 

[Bucoops]

46 minutes ago, Albie the plumber said:

When they've sent you a second or third email teĺling you the same thing , your patience may start to wear thin .

 

Do you need a hug? You seem very angry over nothing.

[figworthy]

33 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

 

I know somebody in a similar position with a JLR product, so it's not even an issue restricted to offshore.

 

The JLR product may be manufactures/assembled in the UK, but some of the components will almost certainly not be.

 

Adrian

[Roy Langridge]

47 minutes ago, Albie the plumber said:

When they've sent you a second or third email teĺling you the same thing , your patience may start to wear thin .

Perhaps when, as in my case, you have lost a parent to Covid, you are a little more patient and understanding?

 

Some things are really important, our models are not. 

 

Roy

[TomScrut]

2 minutes ago, figworthy said:

 

The JLR product may be manufactures/assembled in the UK, but some of the components will almost certainly not be.

 

Adrian

 

Yeah, my point was that even if toy trains were made here, we'd still have supply issues.

[ERIC ALLTORQUE]

1 minute ago, TomScrut said:

toy

Model,if you tell your misses i want a toy train for my birthday god knows what you will get

 

2 hours ago, PaulRhB said:

and others!

Dapol 59 took a while...........

[younGGuns7]

1 hour ago, Albie the plumber said:

When they've sent you a second or third email teĺling you the same thing , your patience may start to wear thin .

We will wait and see shall we, Kia are quoting Jan delivery for an order placed last May, we still don’t have a build date and we are mid Jan. I do think there are much more deep issues than a late model but hey ho such as 88 million which is more than the whole of the Uk having infections in the Henin province 🤷🏻‍♂️

[jonnyuk]

i could be wrong (i have not ordered a 37 i have no axe to grind) but is the issue that AS have asked for payment with the promise of the loco arriving in the next few weeks, payments made and now the loco is 3 months away?

[ERIC ALLTORQUE]

So will this defere the invoices on these until nearer the delivery time now @McCas i have a date of 21st of Jan on my two unpaid ones?

[younGGuns7]

3 minutes ago, jonnyuk said:

i could be wrong (i have not ordered a 37 i have no axe to grind) but is the issue that AS have asked for payment with the promise of the loco arriving in the next few weeks, payments made and now the loco is 3 months away?

I have already paid for my 31 as I did with my Deltic, pretty sure many of us prepay for models as AS method of paying is so good instead of a one off but that’s my preference and it’s interest free

[TomScrut]

2 minutes ago, jonnyuk said:

i could be wrong (i have not ordered a 37 i have no axe to grind) but is the issue that AS have asked for payment with the promise of the loco arriving in the next few weeks, payments made and now the loco is 3 months away?

 

If it's my minor complaint you are referring to, then not exactly. The payment deadlines don't promise delivery of the models on X time after payment, so no promises have been broken. It's just that logically the payment deadlines could have been further back in reality and the money could have been in my bank account for longer (for what little good it does in there).

 

If you're talking about Albies complaint, that is more that there have been several delays and so he thinks they shouldn't give timescales.

[TomScrut]

3 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

and it’s interest free

 

And so it should be, you're effectively lending them money not the other way round!

[billywhizz]

I get this is frustrating for some but I am sure this is more frustrating for the guys at Accurascale who would love to the see the 37 project delivered to their eager, waiting customers. Given what happened a few years ago in China when many workers did not go back after Chinese new year coupled with soaring COVID infection rates there, I fully expect dates to slip again. 
I work in the Automotive industry which is still being badly affected by supply chain issues whether it be semi conductors, parts which were previously produced in the Ukraine and Russia and ongoing supply disruption due to COVID outbreaks and restrictions in China. 
 

Out of interest, when are pre-orders likely to open for the Class 37 sound chips?  
 

Cheers. 
Bill. 

[younGGuns7]

4 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

And so it should be, you're effectively lending them money not the other way round!

True and to be honest it’s a pretty cute way of financing a project and I take my hat off to them for the forward thinking, think it’s called business acumen 🤦‍♂️👍

[TomScrut]

2 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

True and to be honest it’s a pretty cute way of financing a project and I take my hat off to them for the forward thinking, think it’s called business acumen 🤦‍♂️👍

 

I'm not critising it. If it works for you then fair play.

[newbryford]

6 minutes ago, younGGuns7 said:

True and to be honest it’s a pretty cute way of financing a project and I take my hat off to them for the forward thinking, think it’s called business acumen 🤦‍♂️👍

 

Some would call it crowdfunding by stealth............  😀

[younGGuns7]

1 minute ago, TomScrut said:

 

I'm not critising it. If it works for you then fair play.

It does, I like to pay monthly and keep any cash I have in my bank just in case of any unexpected emergencies such as a new Bachmann release 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[LNERandBR]

At least Accurascale have explained there is a delay via a long blog post outlining all the information as to why. They have explained what they were trying to do and have detailed the reasons why they weren't able to meet their original target. 

 

Personally I think that is far more than you get from the majority of companies no matter what their industry and they should be commended for keeping us as up to date as humanly possible.