RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) This round of the Cakebox competition is very challenging. The topic of Industry opens things up to all sorts of typical dioramas of factory’s, wagon hoists, mines and quarry’s. When thinking what to do, I happened across an image of a loco crossing the bridge at Mountain Ash between the various pits. The juxtaposition of industry and nature grabbed me. The trees also block the entry and exit of the track work making a lovely looking scene. I would post a photo, but I can’t find one without the copyright issues! I also have an old ARC models Andrew Barclay resin kit that I’ve wanted to build for a long time, but now redundant since Hattons released their beautiful models. This would give me a chance to build this up. So I’ve been busy building the loco and tonight I’m pretty much done on that part of the build. Its nowhere near a Mountain Ash loco, but I wanted to model an Andrew Barclay with the wasp stripes and striped buffer beam similar to the locos at Blaenavons Big Pit. Its received handrails from an old Hornby Pug. The chassis is a Dapol static pug kit. The hooks are Slaters and the crew from Modelu. As for the diorama, I’ve picked up a Wills kit and started spraying it up. Not too sure on the angle, but it’s early days yet. And this is close to the angle that I'm looking to model: If you look closely, I know its double track and alot wider, but I have to fit it into a 8 inch square, so some compression is required. Edited October 29, 2019 by Captainalbino Photo of original from Flickr put here for context 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 A bit more progress. Bridge affixed into place and cut to shape yesterday, so today is time to get busy with the polystyrene to make the embankments! My Great Western pug ‘Goblin’ is standing in for NCB13 which needs to receive some weathering. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) I’ve been also thinking about trees. Last time I made them from florist wire to make a plaster covered armature, and have a few left. However I might go Seafoam this time to try another technique. The armatures are also quite big and need trimming to fit in a 6 inch tall box! In true Blue Peter style, Here’s one I made earlier: Edited October 28, 2019 by Captainalbino Additional photo 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 Whilst shopping online for Mod-Roc, I decided I didn’t like the cliff at the front, so out came the razor saw and some more polystyrene was sent flying! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 29, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) If you are wondering what the original looks like, you can find a photo of the bridge on flickr here: (Which if I knew pasting the link would have embedded the image, i would have done that ages ago!) Edited October 29, 2019 by Captainalbino 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 29, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) Another image from Flickr: Its really useful to find these. Do I model the two poles either side and the telegraph pole? Also the debris on the far side of the bridge is a must! I've also been thinking about how to model the service pipe. I think I might be looking for some of the last plastic straws in existance! (I love studying the above image. Would make a great model railway in its own right!) Edited October 29, 2019 by Captainalbino 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoking gun Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Hi, for modelling pipe you could use a knitting needle, I have got some in the past from a charity shop. I agree that the scene would make a great model railway. Martin 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 The Knightwing pipes set includes some tubes of a good diameter for service pipes. (not far from Mount). 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly51 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 28/10/2019 at 20:57, Captainalbino said: Whilst shopping online for Mod-Roc, I decided I didn’t like the cliff at the front, so out came the razor saw and some more polystyrene was sent flying! Yes, I found the polystyrene worked quite well for my first cake box model, Captain Albino. It cut quite well with the long blade from one of those snap-off knives, then I coated it in a thin layer of DAS clay! Good progress! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 Nice idea for a cakebox, but it’s the L&Y pug painted for the GWR that takes my breath away. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 30, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 In searching around my various stashes of modelling supplies, I found my final roll of plaster bandage. There was more on the reel than I anticipated, so I decided to slop it about! Now to leave it to set overnight and trim off the excess tomorrow. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted October 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2019 Plaster bandages trimmed back and acrylic base coat applied. I have a bottle of Woodland Scenics realistic water to use up, so the river needs to be black to look deeper than it is. Once the base coats are dry, I need to tidy up the bridge supports. I’ve removed the bridge sides until the river has been finished as they were getting in the way! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2019 Coming on nicely! Rob. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Bo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 This is turning to be a nice little cakebox layout, great photos of the area you are capturing in your model. The plaster bandage has gone on really well. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted November 9, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2019 Having a nightmare with the water to be honest. I've put on the realistic water which looked like a millpond. I've tried to give it some texture with a bit of PVA, but it dried flat. It all went wrong when I put another coat of Realistic Water over the top, so i scraped it off and left a matt surface. I've decided that enough is enough and ordered a pack of E-Z water (Its cheaper than realistic water and I've used it before) This hopefully will give me the depth I'm after. As for trees, given the amount of unused tree armatures I've got, I'll make use of them rather than using Seafoam. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted November 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2019 E-Z water arrived, but I wanted to sort out some debris to put on the riverbank. I’ll probably work on the river bed over the next few days with a view to pour the river at the weekend. Ive also dirtied the Andrew Barclay with some Tamiya weathering powders, but I feel like it’s not dirty enough! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Bo Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Nice job weathering the Andrew Barclay. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffinOz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hi Captain. I like this idea. with regards to the trees, if you use the armatures without leaves and really dirty up the area, it would look damp and cold like the pictures in the 29th Oct post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Captainalbino said: 'Ive also dirtied the Andrew Barclay with some Tamiya weathering powders, but I feel like it’s not dirty enough! You could barely see the green paint in their working days. I love the loose buffer hanging off the wagon. Edited November 13, 2019 by Dickon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted November 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 I noticed the loose buffer. It’s one of those things that if you model, no one would believe you! I’m hoping that another go over with the weathering powder will allow a bit more to stick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Captainalbino said: I’m hoping that another go over with the weathering powder will allow a bit more to stick! I've never tried weathering powders. My favourite method is to use enamel washes working off a pallet so as not to get too consistent a colour, unless of course that's the effect I'm looking for. The paint can be further worked by dry brushing, or even blotting with tissue or cotton buds. Sometimes it will take several coats to get a suitably realistic effect. With most of my locos and wagons that means the filthier the better. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2019 I find weathering powders to be far more subtle and textured than paint or washes. I have a hattons Andrew Barclay to weather for a similar project to this. Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: I find weathering powders to be far more subtle and textured than paint or washes. I wonder if the best might be to start with washes and finish off with powders for a more textured effect? I'm not an expert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2019 I am reluctant to use washes. A wash, funnily enough, will always look like.....a wash. The acquisition of dirt is mainly dust and grime which is then further weathered by the elements. In the case of the underframe, wheels etc, it can be quite claggy. I use mainly powders with an occasional dusting of acrylic paint from an aerosol. Usually dark earth as a base colour over which powders are applied. Powders are sealed with matt acrylic varnish. This provides further texture and can be burnished with a soft brush. Subtlety is the key here. Too many attempts at weathering are spoilt with a 'tar brush' approach..... Rob. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2019 "I never wash," says TV's NHY 581. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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