RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 I'm trying to find details of stock formations regularly seen on the Middlesbrough-Whitby-Scarborough services during 1930-1958. There's plenty of info about locomotives to be found, but I'm not having much luck with the stock to be seen. Sadly most photos concentrate on the locos. I'm pretty sure that the 'rule of thumb' will be that it would have been stock 'cascaded', to use modern terminology, from elsewhere, but what? I think it was usually non-corridor stock too. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 There are some lovely stills in this youtube compilation. I'm no expert but the carriage stock seems to be mainly Gresley and Thompson non-corridor stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 In the early part of your period, they would still be using the 45' clerestories that were built for this service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2019 Towards the end there were Thompson and Greeley non corridor stock and pre grouping stock. Pictures show the odd corridor Mk1 in formations. Mk1 non corridor stock was certainly on york services but not sure about coast services. It appears that after whitby was cut back to the esk valley only there was a fair bit of ex LNER and Mk1 non corridor stock stored at whitby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 Thanks gents. It's certainly a minefield, trying to identify vehicles from what is usually "just the stuff hanging on the drawbar of the important thing in my photo; the locomotive..." Would any of the old NER matchboard stock have been seen? I suspect so. Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Neil said: There are some lovely stills in this youtube compilation. I'm no expert but the carriage stock seems to be mainly Gresley and Thompson non-corridor stock. I'll have to sit with a rolling stock guru to identify some of these - great find. Thank you. Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2019 I'm no expert on pre grouping stock is that second coach NER or hull and Barnsley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 In the mid-1930s there were batches of steel stock, singles and artic pairs built for this line which allowed NER stock to be sent to the GER, further allowing 6 wheelers to be scrapped. Glancing at that video I don't see too many artic pairs, so they may have moved on by the time that was filmed, or been used north of Saltburn where traffic was, I think, heavier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, jwealleans said: In the mid-1930s there were batches of steel stock, singles and artic pairs built for this line which allowed NER stock to be sent to the GER, further allowing 6 wheelers to be scrapped. Glancing at that video I don't see too many artic pairs, so they may have moved on by the time that was filmed, or been used north of Saltburn where traffic was, I think, heavier. Thanks, Jonathon. That's good information. More digging required Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Do you have any of the Harris books? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, jwealleans said: Do you have any of the Harris books? I don't. The name doesn't ring any bells, to my shame, I suspect? Mark Edit - have Gurgled him - I didn't recognise the name, but I have seen the books before. Time to abuse the wallet... Edited October 24, 2019 by MarkC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 NERA do a copy of the carriage roster for the the north eastern rregion in 1932. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 26, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Paul Cram said: NERA do a copy of the carriage roster for the the north eastern rregion in 1932. Thanks, Paul. Better hope I'm home in time for the Newcastle Show then - NERA usually attend. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 It looks like the Saltburn Whitby Scarborough set were to Brake Composites (1-5)(1-4) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 Don't know if you've got this one. Not sure on copyright so just a clip of the stock from a bigger picture purely for research purposes. This was taken at Prospect Hill heading for Scarborough. 1947 or 1948 by the number on the A8 hauling. Perhaps someone can offer ID, especially the first coach which looks quite old. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 These are all NER elliptical roofed stock of c1905 vintage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Don't know if you've got this one. Not sure on copyright so just a clip of the stock from a bigger picture purely for research purposes. This was taken at Prospect Hill heading for Scarborough. 1947 or 1948 by the number on the A8 hauling. Perhaps someone can offer ID, especially the first coach which looks quite old. I don't think I've seen that one. Thank you. What's the van? Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, billbedford said: These are all NER elliptical roofed stock of c1905 vintage. Thanks, Bill. It looks very neat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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