AncientMariner Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) On 09/10/2019 at 20:26, SouthernBlue80s said: Fantastic pictures So the latest date we have a picture/proof of a working non preserved steam loco in the UK, in several locations, is 1983. I would venture to suggest that the latest date would be the Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0ST which I mentioned a couple of days ago. I'll re-post the link, which states that the loco was in use until August 1986. https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/hawthorn-leslie-works-no-3597-falmouth-docks-engineering-company-no-3-0-4-0st/ Admittedly, I'm going purely on my memory here, but I recall an article in the local press about the loco in the mid 80's. which stated that it was usually operated 5 days a week. AFAIK, it was the only steam loco they had at Falmouth. I was a volunteer worker with the Plym Valley Railway when it was acquired from Falmouth Docks. John Edited October 10, 2019 by AncientMariner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 When did the last fireless locomotives go? Pretty sure some were still working into the late 1980s, possibly even 1990s. Heysham? Or Glaxo in Ulverston? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 The 3 Sentinels at R.B. Tennant went in 1984, apparently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 i dont know for sure of the which locos or which years but some of the castleford area locos like airedale, fryston or allerton were still going into the mid 80's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 What a fantastic thread, and among many highlights I particularly liked these: Even in the rather less H&S conscious 1970s this takes the biscuit... and, what are these hoppers? They are rather reminiscent of the BR iron ore type modelled by Dapol and Bachmann... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: What a fantastic thread, and among many highlights I particularly liked these: Even in the rather less H&S conscious 1970s this takes the biscuit... and, what are these hoppers? They are rather reminiscent of the BR iron ore type modelled by Dapol and Bachmann... Probably built by Charles Roberts of Horbury, who built lots of hoppers, both for the steel companies and BR for main-line work, and for internal use by collieries 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 19 hours ago, peach james said: The 3 Sentinels at R.B. Tennant went in 1984, apparently. Ahh, but they aren't real steam locos though...... 1984 Undated 1983 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Ahh, but they aren't real steam locos though...... Now, now! I remember at Southport some bloke pointed at our one and said to his kid something like "There's nothing running but that rubbish little diesel". So I pulled the hooter and he turned a funny shade of red. Jason 3 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: What a fantastic thread, and among many highlights I particularly liked these: Even in the rather less H&S conscious 1970s this takes the biscuit... and, what are these hoppers? They are rather reminiscent of the BR iron ore type modelled by Dapol and Bachmann... The three hoppers that appear to be Prince of Wales internal users, the first is an ex LNER design 25 ton ore hopper and is the design with side brake levers. The other two are LMS 20 ton iron ore hoppers with greedy boards added! Standard Wagon were refurbishing withdrawn BR wagons and hiring or selling to industrial users! Mark Saunders 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: When did the last fireless locomotives go? Pretty sure some were still working into the late 1980s, possibly even 1990s. Heysham? Or Glaxo in Ulverston? Jason I've found some pictures of the one at Boots in Beeston in 1980 This picture says it was donated to the Midland Railway - Butterley in 1981. There's a PDF here that says that the one at Glaxo at Ulverston was still in use until 1991. http://www.mdrs.org.uk/documents/donkey148.pdf 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 So it was late. I've only ever seen one move and that was in the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester where they have a steam supply for the stationary engines. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 What a fantastic thread. I have a liking for the fireless locos: Charles (?) was mounted outside Swansea Museum for years, and, as a small boy, I could not work out how they got the fire into it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I wonder how late the one at Croda, Four Ashes, site lasted? I saw it moving around the site a few times at the end of the 1970s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 Great topic, thanks very much for sharing. Cheers, Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I gather that Sentinel Steam Lorries worked on into the 70's.................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) On 12/10/2019 at 10:07, Fat Controller said: I wonder how late the one at Croda, Four Ashes, site lasted? I saw it moving around the site a few times at the end of the 1970s. There's a picture of a slide on the net that says that it was still in use in 1983. Edited October 13, 2019 by montyburns56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 More of Frances Colliery, Dysart 1977 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 I've found an photostream by a guy called Gerv Wright that is packed with several albums full of Industrial steam in the 70s including one of Bickershaw colliery with 125 photos in it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/60699808@N06/albums I'll post a few of the highlights from it. Agecroft Power Station 1977 A Class 20 and an Andrew Barclay playing chicken at Bedlay Colliery in 1979 Bickershaw Colliery 1976/7/8 A striking mix of old and new technology in this 1983 picture Backworth Colliery 1975?? Bold Colliery, Whiston 1980 Mystery location 1978 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 R.Y Pickering at the Norbrit-Pickering Wagon Works, Wishaw 1973 1971 Incidentally I think that Norbrit Pickering are the company that built the TEA?? tank wagons that the old Hornby model is based on. https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Norbrit-Pickering 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2019 Great pictures again, surely the mystery location is castle Donington power station? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Wonky buffer alert on the last 3 pics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 09/10/2019 at 20:10, montyburns56 said: Bedlay Colliery These all seem to be from 1981 so another one to add to the list??? 1978 I have it on good authority that on the 11th of December 1981, at 12:04 p.m., driver John Todd closed the regulator N.C.B. 0-4-0PT No.17, after working the last train of coal from Bedlay colliery to the exchange sidings. It was the end of conventional steam locomotive working in Scotland, but as as been pointed out elsewhere the Sentinels kept going at Coatbridge for another three years. The R.B Tennants Locomotives were four Vertical-boilered Sentinel 0-4-0T, "Robin" is preserved at Summerlee, "Ranald" and "Dennis" are partially retored at the SRPS at Bo'ness. "John", which was for a while placed on a plinth at the entrance to Dick Engineering in Coatbridge, is also now at Bo'ness but due to it's time in the open is a derelict hulk. jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: I have it on good authority that on the 11th of December 1981, at 12:04 p.m., driver John Todd closed the regulator N.C.B. 0-4-0PT No.17, after working the last train of coal from Bedlay colliery to the exchange sidings. It was the end of conventional steam locomotive working in Scotland, but as as been pointed out elsewhere the Sentinels kept going at Coatbridge for another three years. The R.B Tennants Locomotives were four Vertical-boilered Sentinel 0-4-0T, "Robin" is preserved at Summerlee, "Ranald" and "Dennis" are partially retored at the SRPS at Bo'ness. "John", which was for a while placed on a plinth at the entrance to Dick Engineering in Coatbridge, is also now at Bo'ness but due to it's time in the open is a derelict hulk. jim Thanks for the info! I just love this picture from Bedlay in 1977. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Love the shot of Airedale#2. I hadn't seen this before, in fact this is an individual loco that seems to have largely escaped the lens. This takes my heavy weathering to another level. Maybe I have room for a fourth 15" Hunslet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 10:37, sir douglas said: i dont know for sure of the which locos or which years but some of the castleford area locos like airedale, fryston or allerton were still going into the mid 80's Steam was pretty much finished by 1980. S134 was in store at Allerton Bywater but was recommissioned by Hunslet engineers in 1981. It was used to obtain performance data on the internal line between Wheldale and Fryston. A hard winter made it a popular substitute for frozen diesels and it's final months were captured by many photographers. "Wheldale" might be the most photographed austerity of all. By summer 1982 it was on its way to Embsay. One of the Bickershaw photos has no7 being coaled with a payloader. This is the same livery that S134 wore in the final deployment. In 1978 both locos were painted green by the BBC as they doubled for each other in a film called "The Hills of Heaven". I have asked before without success, but if anyone has any information about this filming I would be most grateful to hear from them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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