LMS Coaching stock - Formation and Usage

[Aire Head]

I am currently in the planning stage for a layout based on the Aire Valley Line near Bradford during the 1950/1960s.

 

While i have a good grip on the freight traffic to be expected the passenger side of things is not quite there.

 

From the images I have seen the big express trains of the period (The Thames Clyde Express and the Waverley) are entirely MK1 stock. However the secondry passenger workings seem to be overwhelmingly using pre-nationalisation stock.

 

What I want to know is what were the likely formations of most of these trains. My research so far has left me slightly confused as it is suggests that the LMS and by extension the LMR tended to form up coaches into four coach sets typically based around 2 composites sandwiched between 2 brake thirds.

 

However the pictures from the period do not seem to how this.

 

Im aware this is a can of worms and probably already been well covered before but can anyone direct me in right direction for reasonable depictions of this traffic?

 

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance

[Steamport Southport]

I'm sure this has come up a few times. Have a look in the LMS Coaches section.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/144-lms-coaching-stock/

 

A good place for LMS coaching stock formations is the PDFs of the instructions on the Comet website.

 

http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/

 

There is also this. Well worth getting, don't pay more that about £15 though.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Passenger-Train-Formations-1923-1983-LMS-LM/dp/0711016062

 

 

 

Jason

[jacko]

I have that book. very useful and also an interesting read.

[Aire Head]

Thanks for the the response, will get the book on order.

[Compound2632]

Also beware that there will be no uniformity in the styling of the carriages used, although by your period I would think it unlikely that there's much in the way of the pre-1931 wood panelled stock (aka Period 1).

[TheSignalEngineer]

5 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

although by your period I would think it unlikely that there's much in the way of the pre-1931 wood panelled stock (aka Period 1).

When I was researching my coaching stock I was surprised at the number of P1 and P2 coaches turning up in photos up to the early 1960s. Mostly all-steel types but up to about 1961 the occasional all-door coach.