LNWR18901910 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yes, the bogie version looks better. bulleid-merchant-navy-3.jpg Thank you very much, Sir. Did I tell you about an LNWR Mogul I'm working on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2017 Thank you very much, Sir. Did I tell you about an LNWR Mogul I'm working on? Yeah it looks good so far! I think we should bring it back to something more humble. How about an air smoothed prairie? Bulleid's answer to the V2? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) I reckon a Bulleid Atlantic is what you're really seeking. Edit: P.S. There were two of them, intended to work the "Bournemouth Belle" 21B1 "Solent" 21B2 "New Forest" You"d be amazed the number of people who've never heard of them. Edited September 16, 2017 by Northroader 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 An 0-6-0 for those who hate the look of Q1s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 An 0-6-0 for those who hate the look of Q1s? For everyone then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted September 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2017 For everyone then? I rather like them. I'm not very good at recognising different classes of steam locomotive but I have no trouble with these. And I rather like the no-nonsense functional look... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I rather like them. I'm not very good at recognising different classes of steam locomotive but I have no trouble with these. And I rather like the no-nonsense functional look... So do I, in a perverse sort of way. They're so different from proper looking locos as designed by Dean and his predecessors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) Yeah it looks good so far! I think we should bring it back to something more humble. How about an air smoothed prairie? Bulleid's answer to the V2? bulleid-prairie-1.jpg Thanks, mate! Also, nice loco. That looks fantastic and smashing! It could've put Gresley's V2 to shame let alone give it a run for its money. Edited September 16, 2017 by LNWR18901910 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Not sure what the Great Eastern and Central railway's livery would be in the 1950s had grouping and nationalisation not occurred, but here is how the heavy freight loco for the Liverpool/Whitemoor/Temple Mills freights might have looked after nationalisation but without the grouping... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2017 I reckon a Bulleid Atlantic is what you're really seeking. Edit: P.S. There were two of them, intended to work the "Bournemouth Belle" 21B1 "Solent" 21B2 "New Forest" You"d be amazed the number of people who've never heard of them. Oh, yes I think I know what you mean. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) An 0-6-0 for those who hate the look of Q1s? NO YOU WILL GET THE OPPOSITE Edited September 17, 2017 by Corbs 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Oh, yes I think I know what you mean. bulleid-atlantic-1.jpg It reminds me of a streamlined version of the LBSCR Atlantics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Or this? Cheers David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Triplex? You'll have to ask the ganger's permission for that! I fancy doing some more photoshops if anyone has any suggestions of things that might have been? It's easiest if I can use a model manufacturer's side-on view as a base. An A2/2 using all front wheel drive and for god measure make it also as 4-8-0 please? Edited September 17, 2017 by Niels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I like the 462 Q1. Looks very purposeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 An A2/2 using all front wheel drive and for god measure make it also as 4-8-0 please? I think you get the same issues with the narrow firebox, though. You probably end up with something like an enlarged K3 boiler. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 The Southern's answer to the requirement for heavier goods locos in 1942... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 The Southern's answer to the requirement for heavier goods locos in 1942... bulleid-q-0-8-0.jpg Still got to ask - Where does the key go? Hat, coat, outski...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 Oh, yes I think I know what you mean. bulleid-atlantic-1.jpg Just as eye-wateringly ill-proportioned as the LNER streamlined B17s...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just as eye-wateringly ill-proportioned as the LNER streamlined B17s...... Similarly... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) a2-2-4-8-0.jpg I think you get the same issues with the narrow firebox, though. You probably end up with something like an enlarged K3 boiler. Picture is stunning. I am breathless Can we see a Pacific versio also? For the the most dramatic british locomotive that never were put the cab forward like Chapelon http://thierry.stora.free.fr/pics/dwg240_1.gif https://camo.derpicdn.net/a64e809d5fe642c88b0fcaf8de7328f44d0a7d7c?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.e-train.fr%2Falbum_mod%2Fupload%2Fgrandes%2F46cb68ffe998fe0bd27ed3972f9f1c83.jpg Edited September 17, 2017 by Niels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 ...I fancy doing some more photoshops if anyone has any suggestions of things that might have been? It's easiest if I can use a model manufacturer's side-on view as a base. A very handsome Hudson (4-6-4) and Berkshire (2-8-4) may be arranged from the Peppercorn A1 with a 50% growth in length of the (mechanically stoked) firebox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 Would the cab without a drop-down frame work within the confines of a UK loading gauge, though? An A3 boiler is about 6'5" diameter. I'll have a stab at a Pacific (in effect an A2/2 without divided drive) and possibly a Hudson or Berkshire. Something always looks strange to me about stretching Pacifics to 4 coupled axles, they always look odd for a British loco. I think possibly smaller diameter wheels could work at balancing out the extra length and make it look less likely to straighten out all the curves in the track. The duplex is pure fantasy, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) The British 4-8-2s that were built have smaller coupled wheels than the pacifics they were developed from (1'7.5" drivers Vs 2'1.5"). Although they still didn't play nicely with points/curves and tended not to be used unless on heavy freights or pulling the armoured train. (RHDR). Edited September 17, 2017 by brack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) The french 4-8-0 has nearly same boiler diameter and center over rail as the P2. If chimney and dome had been lowered it could run UK. Apart from cab width. The driving wheelbase is same as P2 that gave problems and I do not know what the french did. The two first wheelsets were driven and could have no lateral flexibility. And the two last had an awfull lot of hot boiler and ash close by. The undivided drive UK version can have plus minus an inch on second driving set and that is maybe enough. Edited September 17, 2017 by Niels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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