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Milo T.K Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 When was it to be released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 It's been six months since this thread was updated. Has anyone heard anything or any recent news about the Farish class 319? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2020 The most recent mention in the BCC magazine was that it was at livery sample received/awaited stage, so I imagine we might see more in the winter update. Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolongtoremember Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 At this stage, revolution will easy beat them to it with their 321s, a very similar unit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 23/10/2020 at 12:56, TomE said: The most recent mention in the BCC magazine was that it was at livery sample received/awaited stage, so I imagine we might see more in the winter update. Tom. Was there any mention and/or pics to be seen in the Winter update? Or is it too early for that issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) Its listed as being at the livery sample stage, but no illustrations, etc. Best Scott Edited February 9, 2021 by scottystitch 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, scottystitch said: Its listed as being at the livery sample stage, but no illustrations, etc. That's a shame. That seems to be the same stage that Tom mentioned it was at in the previous issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted February 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, grahame said: That's a shame. That seems to be the same stage that Tom mentioned it was at in the previous issue. There is a livery diagram for the NSE version shown and it’s under livery samples received / awaited section now rather than livery artwork so it has moved up a stage. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TomE said: There is a livery diagram for the NSE version shown and it’s under livery samples received / awaited section now rather than livery artwork so it has moved up a stage. Tom. Quite right, I missed the image. Couldn’t see it for looking at it. Apologies Grahame. best Scott. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Hopefully the link below will take you to images now available on the Bachmann site for livery samples of the 319 - I think it looks good, but.....I'm not sure of the livery on the NSE 319. It was always advertised as revised NSE so darker blue but the upsweeps on the cab sides look like they are the original style. Is this right? https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/189/class-319-4-car-emu-319004-br-network-southeast-(revised)/372-875 Edit:NSE is tempting me. Edited June 12, 2021 by steve1023 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I think it might be. From memory the change over from light to dark blue and from angled to curved upsweep wasn't 100% consistent. That cab end is certainly an improvement on the earlier version they showed (1st page of this thread). The light clusters actually fit the space now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 That does looks stunning. I may have to find an excuse to run one of the Northern ones down to the midlands… David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 12, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) There are photos of all three versions here It is looking excellent. The front is certainly much improved over the initial EP, although I'm not sure the two outer cab windows taper out toward the top outer edge as they should and the panel lines on the NSE example look a tad on the heavy side. That said Farish panel lines always tend to look worse in photos than in the flesh I've found. Seriously tempted by an NSE one! Tom. Edited June 12, 2021 by TomE 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Yes, the Farish trencherman does seem to have been particularly overenthusiastic with the cab end panel lines. However the cab screen wipers and pantographs look nice and fine and at least the wipers aren't painted mouldings in the glazing. But is the cab door NSE flash emblem too large? Nonetheless, this is a very welcome model for me and I'll be ordering several. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, grahame said: Yes, the Farish trencherman does seem to have been particularly overenthusiastic with the cab end panel lines. It's a world away from the crisp delicate tooling of the Kato 800 - and the trencherman appears not to have 'dug' the cabside windows out quite deep enough either. Saying that however, wow, I never thought I'd see a RTR Class 319 and always thought it was a no brainer to model - do we think Bachmann can tackle the lovely, but complex First Capital Connect livery, or Connex/Brighton Express 319/2 Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted June 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2021 Might have to get one…even though Olympia is set in 1980-6. Spent many years commuting on them, firstly to Kings X then Croydon, Blackfriars, Croydon again and finally Three Bridges. Even been evacuated from one via the nose end cab door. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JR_P Posted June 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 hours ago, 43179 said: I never thought I'd see a RTR Class 319 and always thought it was a no brainer to model - do we think Bachmann can tackle the lovely, but complex First Capital Connect livery If you are keen for a First Capital Connect liveried EMU, then Revolution are offering the 313 in FCC ‘urban lights’ livery, which is the same livery as the 319 and 365 wore during FCC operatorship. I am pretty sure you will see a Revolution 313 in FCC long before you see a Farish 319 in FCC ! I suppose that there is the possibility of a second production run by Bachmann and they could do FCC, Southern, the later Northern livery and LondonMidland and if they were smart (and had tooling to allow for the extra underframe equipment), TfW and GWR [769].... I think they’ll get good mileage out of the 319 tooling....! As an aside, am I right in thinking that N gauge is now better catered for RTR than OO in terms of modern EMU/DMU/BiMU?.... the only thing I can think of that OO have that N gauge doesn’t is the Thames Turbo.... I’m not counting any of the Bratchell stuff since it is non-powered and therefore not RTR if you want it to run!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, JR_P said: As an aside, am I right in thinking that N gauge is now better catered for RTR than OO in terms of modern EMU/DMU/BiMU?.... the only thing I can think of that OO have that N gauge doesn’t is the Thames Turbo.... I’m not counting any of the Bratchell stuff since it is non-powered and therefore not RTR if you want it to run!!! Apart from the 166/165 Turbo, N Gauge doesn’t yet have a Class 466 Networker, 2 EPB, 4TC, 4BEP, 4 VEP or Class 450, all of which are available RTR in OO so still some way to go. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted June 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2021 I'm sure some third-party manufacturers will step into the breach to cover the missing liveries and, perhaps, 3D print some diesel engines for the driving cars... There is a such a huge amount of potential variants for the 319, I've lost count. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steadfast Posted June 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2021 Here's a link to a pic of 319004 on Flickr to compare those NSE elements. Definitely angles on the stripes Jo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JR_P Posted June 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, TomE said: Apart from the 166/165 Turbo, N Gauge doesn’t yet have a Class 466 Networker, 2 EPB, 4TC, 4BEP, 4 VEP or Class 450 Ah yes, good shout about the 466.... completely off my radar. The 450 is on its way.... I wouldn’t consider the rest of those you list as ‘modern’ (which I did caveat my statement with).... I guess ‘modern’ is a very relative term ! Anyway, I forgot to say that the 319 has a much improved cab face and I think it was well worth Bachmann taking onboard everyone’s observations about the errors to produce a much better looking model. Definitely a Northern one for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, JR_P said: I wouldn’t consider the rest of those you list as ‘modern’ I’ve said it before, but the real missing link in modern EMUs is now the 37X family, which applies to both scales! On reviewing the spec for the 319, it’s very impressive. Factory fitted interior lighting and speaker plus through electrical connection meaning only one DCC Chip is required is something Kato could learn from Farish! In fact the 800 doesn’t make any allowance for sound at all, so I can only assume it’s not that popular in Japan. But, by the time you fully spec out the 800 with the decoder pack and lighting kit, there probably isn’t more than £50 between them when both are DCC’d (without sound) Tom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I wonder if Kato might be tempted by the 37x family. Not only is the Azuma superb it is fantastic value - a Kato 5 car bimodal for the price of a 2 car Farish 170 (with no lights or DCC socket...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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