relaxinghobby Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I found this glue at the back of grandads cupboard, it is a sort of family heirloom guess. It's a sort of brown sticky goo so I've tried it out on this cardboard and paper mock-up of a 4mm model I'm building to test my drawing and to see how the model looks before committing time to a metal and plastic version. I remember in Railway Modeller articles in old copies from the 1960s that this glued is used by modellers of the day like Peter Denny. Whats the modern equivalent, UHU and Prit-stick? Super glue and PVA white glue? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, relaxinghobby said: I found this glue at the back of grandads cupboard, it is a sort of family heirloom guess. It's a sort of brown sticky goo so I've tried it out on this cardboard and paper mock-up of a 4mm model I'm building to test my drawing and to see how the model looks before committing time to a metal and plastic version. I remember in Railway Modeller articles in old copies from the 1960s that this glued is used by modellers of the day like Peter Denny. Whats the modern equivalent, UHU and Prit-stick? Super glue and PVA white glue? Croid - wasn't that a fish or bone or animal hide derivative? I certainly recall it as being - how shall I put it - distinctly aromatic! Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted July 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Croid - wasn't that a fish or bone or animal hide derivative? I certainly recall it as being - how shall I put it - distinctly aromatic! Regards, John Isherwood. We had Leppard bros animal glue factory just outside town. you just prayed for the wind direction to take the smell away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxinghobby Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 This does not seem to smell much to me, but it is summer and all the windows are open. How long does a glued joint last with this sticky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Seems they made glue for aeroplanes. Not just the models. Lasted until the 1960s. But I can't remember it being about in the 1970s. This looks fairly modern. https://www.modip.ac.uk/artefact/aibdc-007416 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagaguy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Seccotine was very similar but both glues were a bit optimistic in their adhesive properties. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Durofix was another popular if optimistic glue. I'm certain that I have seen it [Croid] advised as the glue of choice when assembling wooden rolling stock kits. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, sagaguy said: Seccotine was very similar but both glues were a bit optimistic in their adhesive properties. Seccotine was a fish glue, fine for paper and card. IIRC the original Croid was a 'Hide' glue. Before we went over to Cascamite I remember using the hot glue pot for woodworking when I was at school. If diluted it was good for sizing fresh plaster before wallpapering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Ahh, glue nostalgia For your consideration, I offer Copydex and Cow Gum Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Croid made several different glues for different purposes over many years, and I vaguely remember that one from perhaps the early 1970s, when my father used it to stick melamine to a work-surface. I think it might be intended to be applied thinly to both surfaces, left to go tacky, then the two parts pressed together ...... an impact/contact adhesive. On glue nostalgia, what about that golden-brown liquid stuff that came in a glass bottle with a red rubber applicator thingy on top? We used to have it at home, but post offices always seemed to have jumbo-sized pots of it for sticking labels onto things. Edited July 13, 2019 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Croid made several different glues for different purposes over many years, and I vaguely remember that one from perhaps the early 1970s, when my father used it to stick melamine to a work-surface. I think it might be intended to be applied thinly to both surfaces, left to go tacky, then the two parts pressed together ...... an impact/contact adhesive. Similar to Evo-Stik? Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Probably more about Croid than you ever wanted to know: http://www.themeister.co.uk/hindley/vivian_suter_memories.htm Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 “ Similar to Evo-Stik?” If I’m remembering it correctly, yes, similar to Evostik Impact, but not as smelly. Evostik also, as I’m sure you know, make lots of other glues too ...... I’m a great devotee of the moisture-resistant version of Resin W. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagaguy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Pafra was another adhesive that was recommend for sticking white metal kits of the 60s. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I didn't realise Gloy were still going. I remember that stuff from the 1970s. They also made polystyrene cement and enamel paints. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gloy-Glue-Sticks-Clear-40g/dp/B076VHZSSC Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarcher Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, RLWP said: Ahh, glue nostalgia For your consideration, I offer Copydex and Cow Gum Richard Actually Copydex doesn't seem that nostalgic, I've used it recently. Still a very useful flexible glue, I recall I once mended leaky bellows in a harmonium by painting them with Copydex. Croid really took me back though, I think I still remember the smell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 9 hours ago, chris p bacon said: We had Leppard bros animal glue factory just outside town. you just prayed for the wind direction to take the smell away. Guess we were lucky then. If the wind was blowing from the west we could smell the hops from the Guinness brewery in our college studio. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: I didn't realise Gloy were still going. I remember that stuff from the 1970s. They also made polystyrene cement and enamel paints. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gloy-Glue-Sticks-Clear-40g/dp/B076VHZSSC Jason I think they also made Airfix's paints under contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I still have half a dozen tins of Gloy railway paints. They are in perfect condition after at least 35 years of ownership. These days, you seem to be lucky if Humbrol lasts for 35 minutes.... And yes, I have just remembered those disgusting red rubber-topped glue dispensers. Haven't thought about them for decades. I'm sure that they were Gloy. Lepages comes back to mind also. I do think that we all need to get out a little more though [instead of sticking around in here....]. Tony Tony 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 As I recall, those applicator caps on glue bottles worked for about 30 seconds when new, and then clogged irretrievably for ever more. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I remember Croid, Seccotine and Durofix (other horrors were available). My experience with all of them was 1. smell and 2. lack of ability to actually stick anything (or was it just me?). The advent of Evo-Stik and similar was a godsend. It still wouldn't stick a white metal kit together permanently however.... I understand modern paint suffers from not being able to use certain solvents and pigments any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Il Grifone said: The advent of Evo-Stik and similar was a godsend. Superglue was the game changer in my opinion Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RLWP said: Superglue was the game changer in my opinion Richard I can never get the stuff to stick (again it must be me!). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Il Grifone said: I can never get the stuff to stick (again it must be me!). Not even between your fingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2019 Most superglues will not stick my fingers together. I must have the wrong sort of skin - and this is true, not a flippant comment. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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