CME and Bottlewasher Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Brian Are these resin side frames? Are they string enough for this type of application? I am not a fan of resin myself Paul R I know what you mean Paul, yet they are only cosmetic as such so strength isnt an issue - besides Brian has tested them to the limit now! I know some have concerns over the longevity of resin - perhaps David Parkins could comment on such? Edited December 30, 2014 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2014 Omen still do painted figures I think Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djparkins Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I know what you mean Paul, yet they are only cosmetic as such so strength isnt an issue - besides Brian has tested them to the limit now! I know some have concerns over the longevity of resin - perhaps David Parkin could comment on such? Who is David Parkin? The resin sideframes on the 47 are purely cosmetec so no problem. Though I agree - wouldn't use them in a load-bearing situation! We only have two of the sideframe sets left as part of our 3-set 47 deal anyway - and none as separate items Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted December 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2014 Extra call for the Stadden figures, I have found them to be the most realistic and detailed so far, and as for the second man.......put him in before ASLEF gives up the fight again 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstreak Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 As my 40 will fit alongside my steam fleet timescale wise it will require two crew members. There is a lovely image of D279 standing at Leeds in June 1966 with a Liverpool bound service in the Ian Allan book "Heyday of the Class 40s". Standing alongside on the Platform is the driver hands on hips still decked out in steam era blue overalls and jacket with cap tipped to one side just gazing up at his cab. The 40 looks spotless for a Gateshead allocated loco not so surprising then as the shed had rid itself of a steam allocation the year before. To be fair it was that image which in the end caused me to pull the trigger on a Heljan 40 Thanks Guys for the heads up re footplate figures. I'm busy looking at the sites concerned trying to make my mind up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Who is David Parkin? The resin sideframes on the 47 are purely cosmetec so no problem. Though I agree - wouldn't use them in a load-bearing situation! We only have two of the sideframe sets left as part of our 3-set 47 deal anyway - and none as separate items Hi David, My apologies, I am lower spectrum dyslexic and a 11" computer screen can be a chore at times too. Thanks for the advice on the side-frames. I assumed that you would only sell them as a set (I bought the side-frame and the cab sets). Thanks Brian for allowing us all to see the MMP products fitted and for allowing this line of enquiry to run. Kind regards, CME Edited December 30, 2014 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I have been making one of Pete Harvey's plate bufferstops over Christmas. And very nice it is too. In the instructions it says to use a piece of melted plastic in a former to make bolt heads but I just could not get anything to look right so I ordered some plastic bolts from EDM Models to use on the rail clamps and bufferbeam fixings. Didn't quite get enough though to finish the individual clamps behind the buffer. I will paint this in the orange coloured Rail Red, the same as RfD wagons, as I think that's about right. Thankfully it slides onto the railhead so can be removed for spraying! The buffer planks are just stirrers from a coffee shop but look ok. Edited January 1, 2015 by brian daniels 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ngtrains.com Posted January 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2015 I was wondering where we'd see those NBW's turn up as I was packing and mailing them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nice to hear from you Paul. They were just right for the job and I only lost one across the room as it pinged out of the tweezers! Bring another pack of 8144's with you to Bristol please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Brian, that buffer beam looks great , PS where are the bolt effect rail joiners from ? Happy Modelling Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Brian, that buffer beam looks great , PS where are the bolt effect rail joiners from ? Happy Modelling Craig. C&L Finescale do some nice fishplates ( rail joiners ) in both brass or plastic. Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Brian, that buffer beam looks great , PS where are the bolt effect rail joiners from ? Happy Modelling Craig. It's Atlas set track that comes with the fishplates, note that there are 3 bolts each side as per US arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) I have added a bit of weathering to the 47's tanks and bufferbeams so it looks a lot better now. Painted Pete Harvey's plate bufferstop as well in Rail Red and Signal Red and white for the buffer plank. Hopefully this should stop the odd runaway on my demo table! Edited January 3, 2015 by brian daniels 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 47 looks superb Brian well worth the extra effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hmmmmm, that's very..........colourful. LOL What are the extra little clamps at the rear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) What are the extra little clamps at the rear? Thats to stop the whole buffer stop assembly sliding along should Brian be a bit over zealous with the throttle.........everything extra helps when a driver is near the end of his shift Edited January 4, 2015 by boxbrownie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 That's quite right David. There are three little clamps but I will only put one or two on the rail head as it takes up valuable running space. I will have this at Bristol if you want to see it the flesh, it's not so orange in real life. Gave the 47 a run today and it looked the part I must say. One draw back though is if you look down on the tanks you can see right through the top to the track. I think a block of black plasticard is needed here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I have added a bit of weathering to the 47's tanks and bufferbeams so it looks a lot better now. Painted Pete Harvey's plate bufferstop as well in Rail Red and Signal Red and white for the buffer plank. Hopefully this should stop the odd runaway on my demo table! IMG_1743.jpg IMG_1745.jpg IMG_1746.jpg IMG_1747.jpg IMG_1750.jpg Hi Brian, The Cl47 looks FANTASTIC! The Cl47 seems to have real weight and sits down nicely on the bogies - shame about the issue with the tanks, yet that's the issue with fold-up brass, I am sure your quick fix will sort it though. A quick question, do you think it was worth the extra work with adding the tanks? Kindest, CME Edited January 5, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Here's a picture of it with the narrowed Heljan tanks. Was it worth changing them? In a word no I don't think was. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hi Brian I understand how you feel about that, was all that work worth the effort ? Sometimes it is just easier to stick with what you have. A lot of us know what work went into it, but by the time it is sprayed up and weathered up is there a noticeable lift up of the model ? Only you can decide for yourself. Did you get job satisfaction from doing it ? Best regards Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hi Brian, It depends why you do what you do. Unless for a paying customer, then the journey is the destination, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Here's a picture of it with the narrowed Heljan tanks. Was it worth changing them? In a word no I don't think was. Hi Brian, Thanks, those are possibly my thoughts too - certainly as far as my loco is concerned, yet I may change my mind in due course, my only caveat/concern is the fit of the MMP replacements. Kind regards, CME Hi Brian I understand how you feel about that, was all that work worth the effort ? Sometimes it is just easier to stick with what you have. A lot of us know what work went into it, but by the time it is sprayed up and weathered up is there a noticeable lift up of the model ? Only you can decide for yourself. Did you get job satisfaction from doing it ? Best regards Craig Good points Craig, as it's a hobby the time spent/therapeutic side is sometimes just as important, yet one often finds, with 7mm models/kits, that frustration can play a part too and sometimes less is more. To my eyes Brian's HJ47 is superb and looks right, yet without viewing the two manufacturers' tanks in the flesh, side by side, I would be hard-pressed to see the difference at most normal viewing angles (although I am sure the MMP tanks and details are noticeable when viewing close-up). It all depends on what one wants ie layout model vs showcase etc etc... Hi Brian, It depends why you do what you do. Unless for a paying customer, then the journey is the destination, so to speak. Ray that is also very true, the journey is much better though when a product fits/works first time... Edited January 7, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ray that is also very true, the journey is much better though when a product fits/works first time... I guess you're not into Land Rovers, then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) I guess you're not into Land Rovers, then. Theyre all right - like a big Meccano kit! I have owned numerous 'classics' and all have been pretty easy to work on - frustrating at times, but usually easyish. I have a modern car with a leaking washer-bottle pipe and cant locate the leak, apart from the wet OSF floor mats! I would rather be playing trains! Edited January 7, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Not the heater matrix gone then? Try tasting the wet...if it's sweet, it's your heater matrix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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