Administrators AY Mod Posted April 18, 2019 Administrators Share Posted April 18, 2019 AN ALL UK PRODUCED MODEL! At the opening of The York Model Railway Show this morning, Rails of Sheffield in partnership with Dapol have announced that they will produce an OO gauge model of the BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van. This is the first product of a planned range of products of exclusive models. Rails is leading the way and innovating for model enthusiasts. These models have been researched, designed and produced solely in the UK. Manufactured using new cutting-edge technologies featuring: • A new, ultra high resolution, super strong aeronautical grade PU with a design life exceeding 25 years. • A build process using the very latest light technology and is infinitely flexible for making all variants. • Low volume production potential for niche, products previously not capable of being produced economically for RTR. Rails aim to fill the need for niche products, which simply would not justify a large production run. As they are produced in limited quantities, these vans are priced slightly higher than mass produced items, however, we feel the price reflects fantastic value for such distinctive models. The price for a single wagon is £27.99 As an introductory offer if you purchase two wagons you will receive a 5% discount. (Introductory offer is valid prior to release of product, is subject to availability and we reserve the right to withdraw, modify, discontinue the offer at any time without prior notice) Initially three liveries will be produced, with two running numbers in each livery. The following models are now available for pre-order; BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van, No. S45374, Southern Railway brown with BR lettering BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van, No. S45382, Southern Railway brown with BR lettering BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van, No. S45358, BR freight stock grey BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van, No. S45427, BR freight stock grey SR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van No. 45374, Southern Railway brown, 1936 livery SR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van No. 45455, Southern Railway brown, 1936 livery Characteristic in style of earlier covered wagons built by the South Eastern and South Eastern & Chatham Railways, these wagons were built to an increased length of 16 feet during the Wainwright era. Later designated Southern Railway diagram 1424, 110 were built between 1904 and 1908, several examples surviving to British Railways ownership, at least until 1956. The models produced by Rails reflect the later SR and BR condition of the vehicles. A tremendous amount of research and development has been put into this project to ensure accuracy and true replication has been achieved. The vans will be fitted with Alan Gibson finescale twin spoke wheels for further accuracy. Production is in the final stages with these models expected in stock in June 2019. Painted samples are on display this weekend on our stand at York. More information and updates on the projects progress will appear on Rails of Sheffield website. Due to the small production run these models are expected to sell out quickly and pre-ordering is highly recommended to avoid disappointment. For further details please see www.railsofsheffield.com 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 18/04/2019 at 08:46, AY Mod said: aeronautical grade PU Is 'PU' polyurethane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium pete_mcfarlane Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 I spent ages scratch building one of those...... I'd be interested to see a photo of one in BR grey. I thought they ended their lives still in SR brown. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Oh damn somebody pinch me. I never thought I would see a model of a pre-grouping van. Definitely gonna be getting all the BR versions as I love vent vans for some weird reason. The SECR van looks gorgeous. Big James 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Excellent and congratulations to all involved!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Now there's an unexpected revelation! Something very different from the run-of-the-mill vans, and thus distinctive in a goods train. I shall certainly be getting a couple. Well done to all involved, she's a real little beauty! 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Big James said: Oh damn somebody pinch me. I never thought I would see a model of a pre-grouping van. Definitely gonna be getting all the BR versions as I love vent vans for some weird reason. The SECR van looks gorgeous. Big James There's been one in the Hornby range for over forty five years. The van they've released in every livery under the sun is a Hull & Barnsley van. http://www.hornbyguide.com/item_year_details.asp?itemyearid=991 Jason 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Here's the thing. It is often said that the body of the Hornby 'Kit Kat' van is an accurate representation of the H&B van. Believing this, years ago I bought one with a view to replacing the underframe and detailing. However, I have since learnt that, actually, it's not at all accurate. Though there are prominent upright stanchions on the ends, there is no raised or outside framing around the doors, sides or ends. If this were an outside framed van, I'd expect horizontal planking and outside X bracing to give the diagonal iron brackets a reason to exist. The reality is that this is probably a sandwiched framed van with outer vertical side planking flush to the frame, the iron brackets relating to cross bracing behind it. The H&B's first unfitted vans resembled LCDR vans. With 2 verticals between the ends and the door, the new Rails van, though SE&CR, reflects previous SER practice. Nice to see a pre-Grouping wagon and a prototype with much character. That brake gear is very fine, and that door handle and the horse hook on the solebar are stuff you just couldn't do with traditional injection-moulding. Impressive technique. Delighted to see it fitted with Alan Gibson wheels. I'll be in York tomorrow, so I'll see if I can snap the samples there. Edited April 20, 2019 by Edwardian 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 A pre-grouping van, but no pre-grouping livery on offer? Even so, I have already placed a BR example in my Rails wish list. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, SRman said: A pre-grouping van, but no pre-grouping livery on offer? They say the production technique is infinitely variable to allow for all versions - I suspect it's a matter of time! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) On 18/04/2019 at 08:46, AY Mod said: The models produced by Rails reflect the later SR and BR condition of the vehicles. It's a shame as they won't be able to reproduce this livery. I think the main difference is the brake gear, so as Tom says maybe one for later. Edited July 8 by Nile 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, SRman said: A pre-grouping van, but no pre-grouping livery on offer? Even so, I have already placed a BR example in my Rails wish list. Fingers crossed, then. That would require inter alia roof vents, Eros or Laycock (torpedo), different spring attachments, Hills brake gear and Mansell wheels. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, SRman said: A pre-grouping van, but no pre-grouping livery on offer? Even so, I have already placed a BR example in my Rails wish list. I believe there was alterations to the brakes. I think they had an earlier type of brake on one side only when built. More like the LCDR version. https://www.roxeymouldings.co.uk/product/158/4f01-lcdr-8-ton-goods-van/ Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 . "produced solely in the UK" ...... ...... "• A build process using the very latest light technology and is infinitely flexible for making all variants." "• Low volume production potential for niche, products previously not capable of being produced economically for RTR." So !!!!!! British produced ! A good sign (even if a bit expensive) "latest light technology" - so 3D printed ??????? Low volume production" - likewise likely to imply 3D printed ?????? Fascinating. And a sign, hopefully, for the future. ( Oh ! And 6 ordered already. ) . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 18/04/2019 at 08:46, AY Mod said: Manufactured using new cutting-edge technologies featuring: • A new, ultra high resolution, super strong aeronautical grade PU with a design life exceeding 25 years. • A build process using the very latest light technology and is infinitely flexible for making all variants. • Low volume production potential for niche, products previously not capable of being produced economically for RTR. I think this all points to Dapol having acquired a fancy new 3D printer. It opens the possibility for more commissions. Interesting times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted April 20, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted April 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nile said: I think this all points to Dapol having acquired a fancy new 3D printer Not necessarily. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pteremy Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 Out of interest, does this vehicle have some particular historical significance? Or is there some other reason why it is good choice for the first in this new range? Whatever the reason this certainly looks like a positive development for the hobby. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted April 20, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pteremy said: Or is there some other reason why it is good choice for the first in this new range? Goes well with C and P classes and Terriers. I believe there is a further sample in Rails cabinet at York this weekend. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 It will go well with their Terrier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Very nice indeed. I fear I shall be earning another endorsement on my Modeller's Licence very shortly. If the tooling is versatile enough to enable backdating the running gear to SECR condition, it should also be possible to make a rather a nice grounded body to keep we late-fifties/early sixties modellers honest.... John PS. My heart sank a little until I saw the photo. Glad to see it isn't the Lynes one as I have the Cambrian kit nearing completion and another in the stash. Edited April 20, 2019 by Dunsignalling PS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 Whereabouts on the southern network were these seen, away from the former SECR lines? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, Nile said: I think this all points to Dapol having acquired a fancy new 3D printer. It opens the possibility for more commissions. Interesting times. 30 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Not necessarily. Most likely using the equipment purchased a couple of years ago? https://www.Dapol.co.uk/2017-Archive?post_id=44 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, JohnR said: Whereabouts on the southern network were these seen, away from the former SECR lines? Ordinary, non-specialised wagons were pooled during and after the Great War, so assuming these ordinary vans were in the pool, they could appear anywhere in mainland Britain. Certainly later SECR stock - particularly that built post-Great War - seems to turn up in 1920s photos in all sorts of remote places, e.g. on the Cambrian and Highland. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JohnR said: Whereabouts on the southern network were these seen, away from the former SECR lines? The odd one could have appeared pretty much anywhere, but if your modelling is set in North Cornwall or the Somerset and Dorset (for example), I'd suggest keeping it to just the one. It wasn't a numerous type anyway, so you'd be unlikely to see squadrons of them together even on their home turf. John Edited April 20, 2019 by Dunsignalling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 I hope that The odd one in the early 50s in East Devon wouldn't hurt then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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