Ian_B Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Johnfromoz said: Great photo. Fair to say the half height containers as modelled by accurascale haven't been used sine 2015? Don't they fill the half height containers with concrete when they're loaded? Ian_B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrington Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Plenty of scope there for further PFA releases with different nuclear related loads. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Ian_B said: Don't they fill the half height containers with concrete when they're loaded? Ian_B I believe they are pressurised and a testing/checking program runs with the containers tested by a pressure drop method so to detect any leaking. I’ve seen a on line report somewhere with all the spec but can’t find it at moment, if I find it I will post a link on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Found it. https://www.neimagazine.com/features/featurea-history-of-the-uk-s-ip-2-iso-freight-containers/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnfromoz Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Many thanks 25901. This document is great background and context to the half height containers and their usage. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Johnfromoz said: Many thanks 25901. This document is great background and context to the half height containers and their usage. John I've seen pics somewhere of them being loaded with small boxes, held into place with a wooden batten framework. All done with a forklift and manual handling in the open air with little or no specialist protective equipment. Presumably later filled with concrete before being shifted to the depository at Drigg. Not that it really matters what is inside the model box......... Edited February 27, 2020 by newbryford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Weren’t there white half height boxes too which I seem to remember had a canvas type top pretty sure I didn’t dream them! Edited February 27, 2020 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, big jim said: Weren’t there white half height boxes too which I seem to remember had a canvas type top pretty sure I didn’t dream them! You didn't dream them - there are at least a couple in white. There were a couple of older ones in white which IIRC were mostly used as tool stores by DRS (I think Gareth B had a picture on Wotw). There's also at least one white half height container in one of the recent rakes - not sure if it is one of the original white containers or a new one. Cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, red death said: You didn't dream them - there are at least a couple in white. There were a couple of older ones in white which IIRC were mostly used as tool stores by DRS (I think Gareth B had a picture on Wotw). There's also at least one white half height container in one of the recent rakes - not sure if it is one of the original white containers or a new one. Cheers Mike I have a pic in my collection of 92740 carrying a white half-height box - dated 2013 - and tallies with a KD open day. But it isn't my pic, so can't post it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2020 That’s my recollection too, it was at an open day in one of the dead end roads next to the portacabin type buildings to the south of the depot I think I may have pics of it somewhere from when I worked at DRS parked in the same location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2020 That’s the fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangerineWizards Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Not sure if this has been posted before but an interesting video about what happens to the containers when the PFA's arrive at Drigg. Edited February 28, 2020 by TangerineWizards 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I think if the half height containers were done as a separate item they would be a sure seller. Hint Hint 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 25901 said: I think if the half height containers were done as a separate item they would be a sure seller. Hint Hint Especially if you want to model the site at Drigg............................. I'm hoping that the gypsum boxes will be made available for later flows with bogie flats. Edited February 28, 2020 by newbryford 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 hours ago, newbryford said: Especially if you want to model the site at Drigg............................. I'm hoping that the gypsum boxes will be made available for later flows with bogie flats. Which bogie flats do you want? When the traffic first started I believe Freightliner FFA & FGA we’re used ( please correct if wrong), these were replaced with Tiphook 60’ foot flats running with two containers on each. These in turn were replaced by the 40’ foot purpose built PFA which later were supplemented with former Cawoods flats. The ex Cawoods were scrapped and the 40’ foot ones went into storage at York till taken away about five years ago and refurbished and used by GBRf. EWS later DB were using FCA’s and GBRf using FEA’s (Marcroft built ones) and also Lowliners with two or three Tiphook or Railease 60’ foot KFA flats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP82 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Which bogie flats do you want? When the traffic first started I believe Freightliner FFA & FGA we’re used ( please correct if wrong), these were replaced with Tiphook 60’ foot flats running with two containers on each. These in turn were replaced by the 40’ foot purpose built PFA which later were supplemented with former Cawoods flats. The ex Cawoods were scrapped and the 40’ foot ones went into storage at York till taken away about five years ago and refurbished and used by GBRf. EWS later DB were using FCA’s and GBRf using FEA’s (Marcroft built ones) and also Lowliners with two or three Tiphook or Railease 60’ foot KFA flats. There was also a rake of the EWS red FKA twins in use around the year 2000. GBRF have gone on to use the 640xxx FEA twins and singles in blue and the odd Network Rail yellow FEA singles have made an appearance on gypsum and container trains in the past ten years or so. Edited February 29, 2020 by RP82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 hours ago, 25901 said: I think if the half height containers were done as a separate item they would be a sure seller. Hint Hint They are a separate item, each container comes with a free wagon. ;-) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Which bogie flats do you want? When the traffic first started I believe Freightliner FFA & FGA we’re used ( please correct if wrong), these were replaced with Tiphook 60’ foot flats running with two containers on each. These in turn were replaced by the 40’ foot purpose built PFA which later were supplemented with former Cawoods flats. The ex Cawoods were scrapped and the 40’ foot ones went into storage at York till taken away about five years ago and refurbished and used by GBRf. EWS later DB were using FCA’s and GBRf using FEA’s (Marcroft built ones) and also Lowliners with two or three Tiphook or Railease 60’ foot KFA flats. Exactly! That's why I think the gyppo boxes would sell, as there's a diverse range of flats to run them with. The FFPS-Kirkby Thore run - when operated with GBRf seemingly operated with all types of their FEA fleet in the same train...... There have been odd occasions when the traffic was running sporadically, that a full set of Tiphook KFAs (as per Hornby) was used. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, adb968008 said: They are a separate item, each container comes with a free wagon. ;-) That almost as good as the offer I heard about today, if I can store a couple of loco’s on your railway I’ll give you a free 142. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2020 19 hours ago, 25901 said: That almost as good as the offer I heard about today, if I can store a couple of loco’s on your railway I’ll give you a free 142. Nah 142’s are almost as cheap as a dozen o gauge locos, (i’m not joking either), so cheap i’m surprised they've not turned up in the bargains thread. Could make good model railway club rooms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 It was great to meet the Accurascale Team at Model Rail Scotland. The stock on show was superb and, as well as my DRS PFA wagons, now have 3 British Fuel and 12 Cawoods! not sure if I heard correctly during chats but maybe Fran can confirm or tell us I was hearing things. Did I hear mention that Accurascale were going to manufacture loads for the PFA containers or am I dreaming? Best regards John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff Accurascale Fran Posted March 6, 2020 Author Accurascale staff Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnC said: It was great to meet the Accurascale Team at Model Rail Scotland. The stock on show was superb and, as well as my DRS PFA wagons, now have 3 British Fuel and 12 Cawoods! not sure if I heard correctly during chats but maybe Fran can confirm or tell us I was hearing things. Did I hear mention that Accurascale were going to manufacture loads for the PFA containers or am I dreaming? Best regards John Hi John, you heard correct, we are currently working on real coal loads for our PFA coal containers, so watch this space! Cheers! Fran 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi John, you heard correct, we are currently working on real coal loads for our PFA coal containers, so watch this space! Cheers! Fran Hi Fran Many thanks - looking forward to seeing them. Best regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Is there likely to be another run of the Cawoods version at somepoint? They're fast running out and it's looking increasingly like I'll not be able to afford them before they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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