Administrators AY Mod Posted March 21, 2019 Administrators Share Posted March 21, 2019 ‘WESTERN FUSILIER’ CLASS 52 MODEL COMMISSIONED FROM DAPOL Locomotion Models have commissioned a model of Class 52 Diesel Hydraulic locomotive No. 1023 ‘Western Fusilier’ which is part of the National Collection and currently on display at The Railway Museum, York. Finished in BR blue livery, the livery it currently carries, the model will be available in June for £ 152. The model is OO Scale and is DCC READY and is being produced by Dapol as an Exclusive Edition model as part of ‘The National Collection in Miniature’ series. The finished model will be supplied with etched name and number plates for the customer to fit. Models can be pre-ordered for a £30 deposit from www.locomotionmodels.com and will also be available over the counter at both Locomotion, Shildon and at The Railway Museum, York later this year. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Will it have a gloss finish or satin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The very question I feared to ask for fear of derision but then you might fear a gloss finish whereas I would fear a satin one. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Will this feature the unique white dot headcodes D1023 carried as required for its 1977 York Railtour and as it ended service or is it just regular headcodes ? https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Class_52_D1023_Western_Fusilier,_Paddington,_December_1976.jpg Edited March 22, 2019 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2019 Nice loco, just a shame about the colour (No, not that the colour is inaccurate - jus(?) that it isn't green). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2019 Being as the number and number plates are applied by the customer is this not just identical to all the other blue westerns, but with some different name plates...? Why wouldn't I buy any other blue western for less money and the requisite number plates? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, njee20 said: Being as the number and number plates are applied by the customer is this not just identical to all the other blue westerns, but with some different name plates...? Why wouldn't I buy any other blue western for less money and the requisite number plates? Because this way you are supporting the NRM financially. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Did think the same myself. (Perhaps it has a special box?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, woodenhead said: Because this way you are supporting the NRM financially. Fair enough. So the same as any other Western and a donation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted March 22, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted March 22, 2019 I have asked a few clarification questions of Dennis and he'll get the info back to us later today. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted March 23, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 22/03/2019 at 02:55, MGR Hooper! said: Will it have a gloss finish or satin? I've had confirmation that it's the standard (satin) finish. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 That's a pity as it's one of the ones I would have actually liked in gloss as it was when used for railtours. I might still be up for one though as I haven't got any of the Dapol Westerns yet. Photo from Wiki common user. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:D1023_Western_Fusilier_in_Paddington.jpg Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 21 hours ago, AY Mod said: I've had confirmation that it's the standard (satin) finish. A shame....but thanks anyway. Much appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 22/03/2019 at 11:31, woodenhead said: Because this way you are supporting the NRM financially. Other Dapol limited editions have had the added incentive of being completed (plates and lifting rings fitted) - I would have thought this would be a given for an NRM model, these being aimed at collectors as much as modellers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Other Dapol limited editions have had the added incentive of being completed (plates and lifting rings fitted) - I would have thought this would be a given for an NRM model, these being aimed at collectors as much as modellers. Maybe they've cut costs, this is the same price as the Cheltenham Model Centre limited editions where the nameplates and numberplates are being fitted. That difference will no doubt benefit the NRM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Maybe they've cut costs, this is the same price as the Cheltenham Model Centre limited editions where the nameplates and numberplates are being fitted. That difference will no doubt benefit the NRM. Agree the CMC ones have the plates and rings fitted. They are also in the more popular maroon and each have a unique selling point (2 new windscreen variations plus the different plate combo for D1000). I fear Locomotion may find a blue Western that needs completing harder to shift. Standard Dapol Blue Westerns have been in pretty plentiful supply recently, often discounted 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) The Dapol Western is in my mind one of the best rtr diesels ever made. I have 11 3/4 of them, only D1000 and D1015 are “as made” and I paid premium for them. Heres my fleet and what I paid, including buying replacement nameplates / selling the redundant plates, latest purchase was December 2018. Most of my blue ones originated from the LTM limited Edition which was heavily discounted on a couple of occasions, the plates were not prefitted making change of ID a doddle, and probably cause of my over indulgence. If D1023 came with white spots, prenamed and fitted like D1000 / D1015 were, even better would be a 1977 railtour headboard ! in an (N)RM box you can see where the potential for greater price demand differential arises from... I could be persuaded to renumber my existing D1023 to D1028, and buy this, but OMG i’d then have 7 blue ones (I’ve D1043 too on order), and a CMC circular cab wiper one on order too ! Either way even if released as unnamed in a standard Dapol box to post fit yourself i’d Imagine it will find a place with the general public, it is afterall in the exhibition hall at York for everyone to see, and buying what you see is part of the fun, however it would not be for me. Edited March 25, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted March 26, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2019 Thanks to Dennis Lovett for the following clarifications... Class 52 No. 1023 ‘Western Fusilier’ Following discussions with Dapol at the Alexandra Palace Exhibition over the weekend, Locomotion Models can confirm that their OO model will be as operated prior to entering preservation as part of the National Collection. • The locomotive will have a satin paint finish. • It will carry a TOPs panel and white/red electrification warning flashes. It will not as a result carry the red dot route restriction marking. • It will not carry a shed allocation panel. These were not on the locomotive prior to withdrawal from service with British Rail. • As with all Dapol Western locomotives the name and number plates will not be pre-fitted. The body sides carry a positioning guide to assist with fitting. • Each locomotive will be supplied with the Dapol headcode sheet. Options include the two domino markings carried by 1023 towards the end of its working life. We trust this clarifies the position. Locomotion Models 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2019 It’s a shame it doesn’t have the Gloss finish. That’s one thing I love about the limited editions they release. I love my gloss Evening Stars and the KGV, sow as a little disappointed that City of Truro wasn’t glossed. Easily fixed myself of course but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I got mine last week, weathered it this morning: Only joking.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just noticed I need to remove the red dot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion No.99 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 We've now received our stock of D1023 from Dapol. The model comes in our newly branded sleeve and looks rather lovely. Only limited supply remains however. Rich 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Would've seriously picked up one if it was finished off in a gloss finish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 If it had been gloss, maroon and there wasn’t so much else in the offing, so would I! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 21 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said: Would've seriously picked up one if it was finished off in a gloss finish! 9 minutes ago, No Decorum said: If it had been gloss, maroon and there wasn’t so much else in the offing, so would I! Well if it had been an LNER W1 in its original guise I would have had one. The model is the model, there is no point saying i would have had this or that, it wasn't available and by the accounts above from Locomotion, it seems to be selling quite well as a non gloss BR blue model with the number and nameplates to be fitted by the purchaser. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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