nerron Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Email from Hattons advising my early BR J27 is in my trunk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Just been looking at the pics of 65837 on the Rails website. The barely discernible smokebox door hinge straps looks to give the locos face a bit of a blank, vacant appearance and the lack of the tender coping plate detail still bugs me. The Type 57 boiler for that pre. 1958 look. I'll still have a 57A boiler'd jobby when they come along though. Maybe two? Edited July 16, 2021 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2021 E-mail from Rails Of Sheffield yesterday evening, Early crest version is on its way to me. Regards, John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Its a nice surprise to read the above so I had a look at the rails site to find the LNER with sound was in stock so I have ordered one. I look forward to having it arrive in the next few weeks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Ron and Doug For your info I've just completed my review of the J27 for Sept TCH. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Oooooo shiny 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Woodcock29 said: Ron and Doug For your info I've just completed my review of the J27 for Sept TCH. Andrew Thanks Andrew, I look forward to reading it. This will be my third J27, the first is in EM in NER livery and the second in OO in BR Livery. Both are from Dave Alexander kits. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, AGR Model Store said: Just a small point, but I see that we have the horizontal, non-radial handrail stanchions again; along with very yellow numbering. Otherwise, to a non-BR(ER) modeller, the model appears nicely done. CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 Amazingly an LNER one has already appeared on a Facebook selling site at £75 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Just a small point, but I see that we have the horizontal, non-radial handrail stanchions again; along with very yellow numbering. The handrail stanchions are actually fairly close to the prototype, although they should not be quite horizontal. This surprised me as I thought they would have been radial too. See for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Blyth_locomotive_depot.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: The handrail stanchions are actually fairly close to the prototype, although they should not be quite horizontal. This surprised me as I thought they would have been radial too. See for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Blyth_locomotive_depot.jpg There is a financial / cost-saving reason for horizontal stanchions - extraction of the body from the mould is much easier. The moulding tool is far less complex, and therefore cheaper. CJI. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2021 A very pleasant surprise to find the BR version has arrived. Seemed to be selling well at Monk Bar model shop this morning (well, to me and the bloke behind me in the queue at least!). Seems very apt, a J27 from York Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: The handrail stanchions are actually fairly close to the prototype, Ahem. https://flic.kr/p/qXd2To How high is the August sun? 65815 N. Blyth 6.8.66 by George Woods, on Flickr 23 minutes ago, cctransuk said: There is a financial / cost-saving reason for horizontal stanchions - No. Simply the mistake of following the inaccuracies of the Railway Modeller drawing as pointed out by Daddyman. Take a look at the representation of the retaining bolts for the washout plugs. They are horizontal thus offset towards the bottom of the plug. Very un-prototypical but exactly as the RM drawing. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: Ahem. https://flic.kr/p/qXd2To How high is the August sun? About 93 million miles. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: About 93 million miles. Angular size and radius (above the horizon), not distance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Porcy Mane said: Ahem. https://flic.kr/p/qXd2To How high is the August sun? 65815 N. Blyth 6.8.66 by George Woods, on Flickr No. Simply the mistake of following the inaccuracies of the Railway Modeller drawing as pointed out by Daddyman. Take a look at the representation of the retaining bolts for the washout plugs. They are horizontal thus offset towards the bottom of the plug. Very un-prototypical but exactly as the RM drawing. P That may well be the source of the drawing, but the fact remains that radial stanchion holes require a much more complex moulding tool than horizontal ones. Think about it - you can mould horizontal holes with a two-part mould; radial holes would require at least three parts. CJI. Edited July 17, 2021 by cctransuk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Think about it - I have; drawings scanned, sent to China for cad prep, sent back for approval but nobody noticed. Maybe you'e right but with O.R. having made quite a thing about their different tooling (including boiler) options for the various J27's I think horizontal handrail holes would have been one design clever step too far. After all do we see horizontal handrails on the railroad steamers by Hornby? Tooling savings minimal. I'd like to see higher quality tooling to rid/minimise the slide witness marks at 2 & 10 o clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: After all do we see horizontal handrails on the railroad steamers by Hornby? Well I do on my Drummond 700 class for one. Edit: plus my J15. Neither are Railroad models either. Lovely runners the pair of 'em mind you. Edit 2 .... and my S15 Edited July 17, 2021 by spamcan61 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: Neither are Railroad models either. One up for the kitmakers then. One more job too sort out, for those of us that looks upon RTR loco's as kits. At less than £90.00 a pop, including wheels, gearbox and a motor, quite a cheap J27 kit, come to think of it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 hours ago, AGR Model Store said: Looks like one the buffers has taken a knock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Always best to observe critically before taking and posting photographs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2021 They seem to have got them radial on the N7! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Could someone please tell me which RM had a drawing of the J27 in? Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Woodcock29 said: Could someone please tell me which RM had a drawing of the J27 in? August 2015 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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